ARAK is completely unwilling and unable to answer specifics about the spectacular non-performance of "high IQ" China prior to 1975, because it would demolish his racist arguments, resorting instead to the same tired repetitive racist arguments "ad nauseum"(nod to ARAK's superior Chinese cognitive ability). For example, he was crowing about China's recent performance in the Olympics, but is absolutely unable/unwilling to answer why China won not a single medal in 1976. Instead, he resorted to his classic evasive measures, talking about Chinese performance in a math Olympiad as though that somehow explained Chinese non-performance in the 1976 Olympics. Another example: he was crowing, once again, about Chinese GDP growth rate, and how it was an indicator of superior intelligence. When questioned about "low IQ" Bhutan's superior growth rate, he comes back with a weak "China is still growing faster than India....." rather than explain the uncomfortable(for him) anomaly. There's only so much opportunity I'm willing to give a clodhead to stop evading the questions, and only so much discredited racist nonsense I can tolerate. As such, ARAK is no longer worthy(if ever he was) of engaging in debate.
RichAsianKid wrote: > P. Rajah wrote: >> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>> > RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>> >> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>> >>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> scientific wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 5:47 am, RichAsianKid > <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> scientific wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 9:58 am, RichAsianKid > <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You hear so much how Indians and Americans are > just team, in brotherly >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> loving arms and their shared vision for democracy > or even for the world >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc, and yet when you get down to the > nitty-gritty details ordinary >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Americans pronounce their verdict clear and loud: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_052309.htm#b1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: “An American Citizen With Advanced Degrees” > (e-mail him) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: Brenda Walker’s Blog: Intel Disseminates > Diversity Propaganda (To >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Benefit Itself) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I loved Walker’s blog regarding the new Intel ad > campaign. As an >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> American high tech worker I have had my face > rubbed in this diversity >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense for too long. I've had enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If Indians are of such uniformly high caliber, why > is the country racked >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> by massive runaway population growth, grinding > poverty and a caste >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> system that imposes misery on the majority of its > one billion people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One would think that if Indians were as talented > as we are repeatedly >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> told, those superior folks would be able to raise > their own country out >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of the gutter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brenda Walker answers: On the worldwide hypocrisy > scale, India rates >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> number one. Indians have a very overblown belief > in their own >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> superiority based on the alleged spirituality > aspect to their culture. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly, Indians have nothing to be arrogant > about.Yoga is nice but >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> India has all kinds of socially acceptable evils, > as our reader notes, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and the nasty bits far outweigh the good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * * * >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now if this rhetoric were directed against third > world mainland Chinese >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - and it may well be - it would at least be > understandable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But this stab from India's *ally*? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From Americans?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ouch!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> RichAsianKiddish illogical juvenile comment :-( >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> FYI, one American blog entry doesn't mean "Stab > from India's ally -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Americans." BTW, the logic the blogger used can be > extended to every >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> single nationality and nation.The Intel ad refers > to hi tech biz and >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> quite a few Indians in that field are of high > caliber. The blogger is >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pathetic by overgeneralizing "If Indians are of > such uniformly high >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> caliber." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On technicalities which you (like drydem or > residualimage or whatever) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> care about:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Americans I didn't say America - and still plural > - i.e. not just one >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> as you implied (first the letter itself which was a > response, then >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Brenda Walker"'s comments as quoted, and finally > the title of the post >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> from the editor). Not to mention how e-zines or any > publications try to >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> cater to rather than alienate readership I'd imagine.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. As said this rhetoric could be directed against > 3rd world >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mainland Chinese.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3. Agree wholeheartedly Indians are not *uniformly* > high caliber.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Growing Indo-US relationship has unnerved China'
> http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/oct/20/indo-us-ties-unnerved-china... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The deepening of strategic relationship between India > and the US has >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> unnerved China, an eminent American scholar said, > arguing that >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beijing's [ Images ] four-decade-old policy of > dealing with New Delhi >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ Images ] on their own terms has gone haywire.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Participating in a panel discussion on "China 2025" > organised on >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Monday by the prestigious Council on Foreign > Relations, Evan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feigenbaum, its Senior Fellow for East, Central and > South Asia, said >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beijing is increasingly becoming concerned about the > growing Indo-US >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> relationship.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Since 1962, the Chinese strategists have basically > decided that they >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> can deal with India on their own terms. But when you > introduce the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> United States into that equation, it introduces all > kinds of >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> uncertainties into Chinese planning, he said.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feigenbaum noted that for China, India has so far > been a second, if >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> not a third tier security priority. Voicing a similar > opinion another >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> eminent scholar said that in a unipolar Asia, where > China is the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dominant power, it is India, which to some extent > balances the power >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> of Beijing. "Asia without active participation of the > US is not >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> multipolar, it is unipolar with China as the dominant > power, possibly >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> balanced to some extent by India," Princeton > University's Professor of >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Politics and International Affairs, Aaron Friedberg > said in the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Commenting on the effect of Indo-US economic > relationship on China, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feigenbaum said, "The United States is still India's > number one >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> trading partner. But in goods, China's now number > one. So there is >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> enormous amount of strategic mistrust on both sides." > He noted, China >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> is increasingly moving to the centre of India's > defence planning, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> replacing Pakistan.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The world is in for a "period of India-China tension" > he said adding, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "There are things that are ratcheting up on the > border a little bit, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but I think broadly tamped down within limits that > are set by the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> political leaderships on both sides." Feigenbaum said > Pakistan is a >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> prominent factor in Indo-China relationship."At the > end of the day, as >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> things are deteriorating between China and India, > Indians are still >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> watching very closely what's happening between > Beijing and Islamabad >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ Images ]," he said.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Speaking on the US-China relationship Friedberg said > if tensions >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> between these nations grow, all of Asia and perhaps > other regions as >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> well could be divided into something that might > resemble "a new Cold >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> War". At present, he said it is fair to say that the > Sino-American >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> relationship is profoundly mixed. It contains > important elements of >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> both competition and cooperation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lalit K Jha in Washington, DC
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Are you suggesting the US is China's strategic enemy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. "When you get down to the nitty-gritty details > ordinary Americans" may not share the same love for Indians >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. It's funny cuz Mr. Rajah once suggested the US are > in cahoots with China and *that's* why China has been growing so much > faster than India (in spite of the latter having all such advantages as > democracy, English facility, British style institutions, freedom,
P. Rajah wrote: > ARAK is completely unwilling and unable to answer specifics about the > spectacular non-performance of "high IQ" China prior to 1975, because it > would demolish his racist arguments, resorting instead to the same tired > repetitive racist arguments "ad nauseum"(nod to ARAK's superior Chinese > cognitive ability). For example, he was crowing about China's recent > performance in the Olympics, but is absolutely unable/unwilling to > answer why China won not a single medal in 1976. Instead, he resorted to > his classic evasive measures, talking about Chinese performance in a > math Olympiad as though that somehow explained Chinese non-performance > in the 1976 Olympics. Another example: he was crowing, once again, about > Chinese GDP growth rate, and how it was an indicator of superior > intelligence. When questioned about "low IQ" Bhutan's superior growth > rate, he comes back with a weak "China is still growing faster than > India....." rather than explain the uncomfortable(for him) anomaly. > There's only so much opportunity I'm willing to give a clodhead to stop > evading the questions, and only so much discredited racist nonsense I > can tolerate. As such, ARAK is no longer worthy(if ever he was) of > engaging in debate.
When Mr. Rajah replies huffing and puffing to a post *above* rather than *below* as he previously did, it's yet another surefire sign of even more agitation!! We all know truth hurts but perhaps Mr. Rajah should show some restraint and not personify or caricature his psychological state so vividly?
RAK responded and also raised a lot of points on this (may RAK gloat?) very satisfying thread which Mr. Rajah did not have a single answer - not one. RAK urges everyone here to re-read RAK's point-by-point dissection. But let's re-orient ourselves to this whole thread once again. This whole discussion came about because of the initial post from VDARE: "If Indians are so superior, their country is such a dump". All we hear from Mr. Rajah is....guess!!....."racist"!!!!!!. Name-calling. Ad hominem.
And so RAK echoes: if India is really so smart or perhaps now (tada!) superior (with new data input from Mr. Rajah of course): how is it that China is pulling ahead of India so fast *in spite of* India's spectacular headstart? If India couldn't stand on her own two feet in spite of her then relatively recent proud proud British legacy, what makes you think - what makes *anyone* think - especially when viewed in the context of social-valued indices from infant mortality to malnutrition rates, from high school illiteracy to embarrassing performances in international Olympiads - aside from clinging on to notion 'pigs can fly' of course - what makes anyone think India can catch up with let alone surpass China?
Chanting "yes we can!"??
Oswald Spengler once quipped "optimism is cowardice". Now, RAK wouldn't go that far.
But then again he might well be referring to modern Indians in India.
>>>>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>>> > RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>>> >>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> P. Rajah wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> scientific wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 5:47 am, RichAsianKid >> <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> scientific wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 9:58 am, RichAsianKid >> <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You hear so much how Indians and Americans are >> just team, in brotherly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> loving arms and their shared vision for democracy >> or even for the world >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc, and yet when you get down to the >> nitty-gritty details ordinary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Americans pronounce their verdict clear and loud: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_052309.htm#b1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: “An American Citizen With Advanced Degrees” >> (e-mail him) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: Brenda Walker’s Blog: Intel Disseminates >> Diversity Propaganda (To >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Benefit Itself) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I loved Walker’s blog regarding the new Intel ad >> campaign. As an >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> American high tech worker I have had my face >> rubbed in this diversity >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense for too long. I've had enough. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If Indians are of such uniformly high caliber, why >> is the country racked >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> by massive runaway population growth, grinding >> poverty and a caste >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> system that imposes misery on the majority of its >> one billion people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One would think that if Indians were as talented >> as we are repeatedly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> told, those superior folks would be able to raise >> their own country out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of the gutter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brenda Walker answers: On the worldwide hypocrisy >> scale, India rates >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> number one. Indians have a very overblown belief >> in their own >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> superiority based on the alleged spirituality >> aspect to their culture. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly, Indians have nothing to be arrogant >> about.Yoga is nice but >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> India has all kinds of socially acceptable evils, >> as our reader notes, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and the nasty bits far outweigh the good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * * * >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now if this rhetoric were directed against third >> world mainland Chinese >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - and it may well be - it would at least be >> understandable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But this stab from India's *ally*? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From Americans?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ouch!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> RichAsianKiddish illogical juvenile comment :-( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> FYI, one American blog entry doesn't mean "Stab >> from India's ally -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Americans." BTW, the logic the blogger used can be >> extended to every >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> single nationality and nation.The Intel ad refers >> to hi tech biz and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> quite a few Indians in that field are of high >> caliber. The blogger is >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pathetic by overgeneralizing "If Indians are of >> such uniformly high >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> caliber." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On technicalities which you (like drydem or >> residualimage or whatever) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> care about:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Americans I didn't say America - and still plural >> - i.e. not just one >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> as you implied (first the letter itself which was a >> response, then >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Brenda Walker"'s comments as quoted, and finally >> the title of the post >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> from the editor). Not to mention how e-zines or any >> publications try to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> cater to rather than alienate readership I'd imagine.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. As said this rhetoric could be directed against >> 3rd world >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mainland Chinese.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3. Agree wholeheartedly Indians are not *uniformly* >> high caliber.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Growing Indo-US relationship has unnerved China'
>> http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/oct/20/indo-us-ties-unnerved-china... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The deepening of strategic relationship between India >> and the US has >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> unnerved China, an eminent American scholar said, >> arguing that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beijing's [ Images ] four-decade-old policy of >> dealing with New Delhi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [ Images ] on their own terms has gone haywire.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Participating in a panel discussion on "China 2025" >> organised on >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Monday by the prestigious Council on Foreign >> Relations, Evan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feigenbaum, its Senior Fellow for East, Central and >> South Asia, said >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beijing is increasingly becoming concerned about the >> growing Indo-US >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> relationship.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Since 1962, the Chinese strategists have basically >> decided that they >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> can deal with India on their own terms. But when you >> introduce the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> United States into that equation, it introduces all >> kinds of >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> uncertainties into Chinese planning, he said.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feigenbaum noted that for China, India has so far >> been a second, if >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> not a third tier security priority. Voicing a similar >> opinion another >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> eminent scholar said that in a unipolar Asia, where >> China is the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dominant power, it is India, which to some extent >> balances the power >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> of Beijing. "Asia without active participation of the >> US is not >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> multipolar, it is unipolar with China as the dominant >> power, possibly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> balanced to some extent by India," Princeton >> University's Professor of >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Politics and International Affairs, Aaron Friedberg >> said in the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Commenting on the effect of Indo-US economic >> relationship on China, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feigenbaum said, "The United States is still India's >> number one >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> trading partner. But in goods, China's now number >> one. So there is
Our Mr. Aspiring-to-be-Rich Asian Kid is a great fan of Richard Lynn, quoting him extensively in support of his pig-headed racism. Here's a quote from Lynn:
Newsday, November 9, 1994:
"What is called for here is not genocide, the killing off of the population of incompetent cultures. But we do need to think realistically in terms of _‘phasing out'_ such peoples…Evolutionary progress means the _extinction of the less competent_. To think otherwise is mere sentimentality."
P. Rajah wrote: > Our Mr. Aspiring-to-be-Rich Asian Kid is a great fan of Richard Lynn, > quoting him extensively in support of his pig-headed racism. Here's a > quote from Lynn:
> Newsday, November 9, 1994:
> "What is called for here is not genocide, the killing off of the > population of incompetent cultures. But we do need to think > realistically in terms of _‘phasing out'_ such peoples…Evolutionary > progress means the _extinction of the less competent_. To think > otherwise is mere sentimentality."
RAK sees now you're replying to yourself rather than replying to RAK. Yet one more sign of desperation by changing your MO!!
Comment: this above is merely another classic ad hom. When you can't refute the data, smear the authors. RAK's take? Thank you. It's a tacit concession anyway. (See link below) Can you imagine if RAK were to say, hey, those who spew forth nonsense of human equality are socialists and communists anyway!!?? That's the equivalent of what's being said here.
Besides, there is no empiric data on human population equality. For that to be true, it would require that all groups, however divided, to have essentially identical intelligence and IQ. (So now the next tactic is there is nothing called intelligence? We see!!! Then ask a chimpanzee or a Down's child please whose genes we all share; we share 98.5% genes with chimps, you know??) And there are countless human groups not just a few races, and as you subdivide further and further to the individual level, individuals clearly do NOT have identical IQs.
Or put it another way, if Lynn is so wrong, it would be very very easy to disprove him. Reality is a TV channel you can't change, a court where there's no appeal. Why all such decades of hysterical shrieks and grotesque posturing of moral outrage if Lynn is wrong? (Few people get upset about UFOs, for instance.)
Again, it's not just India vs China or blacks vs China. Remember it's not just races, but many many different ethnic groups. And the more data points there are, at least hundreds if not thousands, and when you dig down to the individual level (i.e. datapoints of a few billion) we know individuals do NOT have equal intelligence. Afterall, is society deliberately depriving an IQ 70 kid by placing him into special-ed rather than a gifted program?
Or this: how can anyone seriously believe that a Mbuti Pygmy or an Australian Aborigine is as intelligent as a Japanese in the aggregate? Or for that matter our hominid cousins - why should anyone think a modern gorilla or chimpanzee is as intelligent as a human?
Finally, in that quote of Lynn, the full quote below:
"But we do need to think realistically in terms of "phasing out" of such peoples. If the world is to evolve more better humans, then obviously someone has to make way for them otherwise we shall all be overcrowded. After all, ninety-eight per cent of species known to zoologists are extinct. Evolutionary progress means the extinction of the less competent. To think otherwise is mere sentimentality. "
First, Lynn was writing that when he was reviewing Ray Cattell's book A New Morality from Science: Beyondism.
Second, truer words couldn't be said! RAK admires Lynn even more for his cold and clear-eyed view of our natural history.
90% of languages will be moribund or phased out by the 21st century, like it or not. Look it up. And this evolutionary process is ongoing as we speak. It's only "sentimentality" when you prefer not to see the whole picture.
Besides, where are the Neanderthals? Do all humans now have blood on our hands; are all of us eternally guilty?
RAK agrees with Lynn wholeheartedly and continues to subscribe to reality rather than maudlin kumbaya fantasy. Mr. Rajah prefers the latter. But once you grow up, once your eyes are opened as noted here (another "racist" no doubt) you'll never go back.
Free Tibet wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:34:43 -0500, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Or this: how can anyone seriously believe that a Mbuti Pygmy or an >> Australian Aborigine is as intelligent as a Japanese in the aggregate? >> Or for that matter our hominid cousins - why should anyone think a >> modern gorilla or chimpanzee is as intelligent as a human?
> There it is folks! Right out there for all to see. This person is teaching your > children at school. This person is piosoning the minds of the vunerable. This person > is seriously in need of help. His massive inferiority complex propels him to place > himself at the very top of the tree, above all others. Ask him. His words show > exactly who he is.
PS - Free Tibet cross-posted to soc.culture.australian - hmmmm, is Free Tibet thinking dumb white Australians are somehow their smart Australian Aborigines favorite & intimate cousin anyway?
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Free Tibet wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:38:19 -0500, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Free Tibet wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1
>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:34:43 -0500, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Or this: how can anyone seriously believe that a Mbuti Pygmy or an >>>> Australian Aborigine is as intelligent as a Japanese in the aggregate? >>>> Or for that matter our hominid cousins - why should anyone think a >>>> modern gorilla or chimpanzee is as intelligent as a human? >>> There it is folks! Right out there for all to see. This person is teaching your >>> children at school. This person is piosoning the minds of the vunerable. This person >>> is seriously in need of help. His massive inferiority complex propels him to place >>> himself at the very top of the tree, above all others. Ask him. His words show >>> exactly who he is.
> Equating Pygmies and Aborigines with gorillas and chimpanzees shows just how low your > mind has sunk. You're quite ill if you think this is 'normal.'
> intelligence noun (ABILITY) > /?n?tel.?.d??nt s/ n > [U] the ability to learn, understand and make judgments or have opinions that are > based on reason
What makes you think an Australian Aborigine is as smart as a modern average (white) Australian? Tell us please why you think a gorilla is as smart as a human?
> Something RAK is very short on. >> PS - Free Tibet cross-posted to soc.culture.australian - hmmmm, is Free >> Tibet thinking dumb white Australians are somehow their smart Australian >> Aborigines favorite & intimate cousin anyway?
> I thought my Aboriginal friends would find your sickening, baseless philosophy of > interest, especially the doctors and lawyers amongst them.
> ~~~ > This PGP signature only certifies the sender and date of the message. > It implies no approval from the administrators of nym.mixmin.net. > Date: Fri Nov 6 03:21:42 2009 GMT > From: freeti...@nym.mixmin.net > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
Free Tibet wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:36:29 -0500, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Free Tibet wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1
>>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:38:19 -0500, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Free Tibet wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:34:43 -0500, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Or this: how can anyone seriously believe that a Mbuti Pygmy or an >>>>>> Australian Aborigine is as intelligent as a Japanese in the aggregate? >>>>>> Or for that matter our hominid cousins - why should anyone think a >>>>>> modern gorilla or chimpanzee is as intelligent as a human? >>>>> There it is folks! Right out there for all to see. This person is teaching your >>>>> children at school. This person is piosoning the minds of the vunerable. This person >>>>> is seriously in need of help. His massive inferiority complex propels him to place >>>>> himself at the very top of the tree, above all others. Ask him. His words show >>>>> exactly who he is. >>> Equating Pygmies and Aborigines with gorillas and chimpanzees shows just how low your >>> mind has sunk. You're quite ill if you think this is 'normal.' >> http://tinyurl.com/yjskev7
>>>> And a picture is still worth a thousand words:
>>>> Will "Free Tibet" soon cry foul and followup by crying "speciesist!!"
>>>> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism ) >>> intelligence noun (ABILITY) >>> /?n?tel.?.d??nt s/ n >>> [U] the ability to learn, understand and make judgments or have opinions that are >>> based on reason
>> What makes you think an Australian Aborigine is as smart as a modern >> average (white) Australian? Tell us please why you think a gorilla is as >> smart as a human?
> Who the fuck are you?? I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
It would indeed be a stretch to imagine chimps are as smart as humans. Most people no matter how idealistic and deluded do not have problems appreciating that fact. And for the same reason, it would indeed be a stretch to imagine all human groups (not just races, but ethnic and religious groups as well), based on phylogeny, based on different ancestral conditions and selection pressures, to have evolved identical intelligence - intelligence being one (out of many) traits selected for in hominid history.
The question you need to ask is NOT why are people unequal, but rather why they are.
PS - all replies are voluntary. RAK does so out of courtesy. And besides, it's not RAK whom you're 'fighting' - it's reality. Just look around the world today, or go to any history museum on evolutionary history. Are the brains of Neanderthals or H. Habilis the same as Homo Sapiens Sapiens say? It's sometimes tough and it's easy to get angry when you've lived your whole life as another lie, viewing it through a distorting filtered lens. But once you appreciate the perspective of depth - the 3-D vertical dimension of ancestry if you will - analogous to the 3-D aspect of renaissance paintings vs the 2-D medieval ones or Baroque polyphonic harmony vs Middle Age monophony in music, you'll never go back.
>>> Something RAK is very short on. >>>> PS - Free Tibet cross-posted to soc.culture.australian - hmmmm, is Free >>>> Tibet thinking dumb white Australians are somehow their smart Australian >>>> Aborigines favorite & intimate cousin anyway? >>> I thought my Aboriginal friends would find your sickening, baseless philosophy of >>> interest, especially the doctors and lawyers amongst them. >> http://vdare.com/images/042306_ss_pic1.jpg
>> Sure.
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Free Tibet wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:38:19 -0500, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Free Tibet wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1
>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:34:43 -0500, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Or this: how can anyone seriously believe that a Mbuti Pygmy or an >>>> Australian Aborigine is as intelligent as a Japanese in the aggregate? >>>> Or for that matter our hominid cousins - why should anyone think a >>>> modern gorilla or chimpanzee is as intelligent as a human? >>> There it is folks! Right out there for all to see. This person is teaching your >>> children at school. This person is piosoning the minds of the vunerable. This person >>> is seriously in need of help. His massive inferiority complex propels him to place >>> himself at the very top of the tree, above all others. Ask him. His words show >>> exactly who he is.
> Equating Pygmies and Aborigines with gorillas and chimpanzees shows just how low your > mind has sunk. You're quite ill if you think this is 'normal.' >> And a picture is still worth a thousand words:
> intelligence noun (ABILITY) > /?n?tel.?.d??nt s/ n > [U] the ability to learn, understand and make judgments or have opinions that are > based on reason
> Something RAK is very short on. >> PS - Free Tibet cross-posted to soc.culture.australian - hmmmm, is Free >> Tibet thinking dumb white Australians are somehow their smart Australian >> Aborigines favorite & intimate cousin anyway?
> I thought my Aboriginal friends would find your sickening, baseless philosophy of > interest, especially the doctors and lawyers amongst them.
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