Myanmar Won't Allow Thailand's Foe To Use Its Soil, Says PM
HUA HIN, Oct 24 (Bernama) -- Myanmar Prime Minister General Thein Sein has assured his Thai counterpart Abhisit Vejjajiva that his country would not allow anyone opposing Thailand to use its soil as a springboard to attack the kingdom, according to the Thai News Agency (TNA).
Thein Sein, who is now attending the 15th Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) summit being held in the Thai resorts of Hua Hin and Cha-am, reportedly told Abhisit on the sidelines of the summit Friday, that Myanmar upheld the principle of living in harmony and that it would not allow anyone opposing Thailand wishing to use his country as springboard in attacking this country.
Expressing his confidence that Southeast Asian countries, including Thailand, could sail through obstacles and negative challenges, Thein Sein told Abhisit that both Myanmar and Thailand share a long border and both countries have to depend with each other and good neighbourliness is, therefore, significant.
Thein Sein's remarks were made after Abhisit and Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen traded words after the Khmer leader reasserted Friday on arriving for the ASEAN summit that his government would reject any Thai request to extradite former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra if the self-exiled ex-premier accepts an invitation for refuge in Cambodia.
Hun Sen told journalists to read the extradition treaty thoroughly to understand why the former Thai premier, whom he described as his friend, can stay in Cambodia as a guest of the Cambodian government.
Ousted in a bloodless coup in September 2006, Thaksin jumped bail and fled sentencing to a two-year jail term for malfeasance in the controversial Bangkok's Ratchadapisek land purchase case.
The toppled Thai premier now spends most of his time in the United Arab Emirates after his status as a visitor was rejected by a number of countries including both the United Kingdom and Germany.
Thanking Myanmar for its support given to Thailand as chairman of ASEAN, Abhisit told Thein Sein that his government supports Japan's financial assistance bestowed to Myanmar on various projects, including developing hospitals and schools.
Abhisit said his government, as a close neighbour to Myanmar and host of ASEAN, had told every country to strengthen ties with Myanmar and had requested the Myanmar government leader to "unofficially report" on progress on development projects in his country during the ASEAN summit on Saturday.
Wishing Myanmar to successfully hold its general election next year, Abhisit also told Thein Sein that he hopes to officially visit Myanmar when he has the opportunity and to also meet Myanmar's opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi to boost democracy for the world community.
The leaders of ASEAN's 10 member countries--Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam-- are holding their three-day summit in the Thai resorts with their six dialogue partners--China, South Korea, Japan, India, Australia and New Zealand.
> Myanmar Won't Allow Thailand's Foe To Use Its Soil, Says PM
> HUA HIN, Oct 24 (Bernama) -- Myanmar Prime Minister General Thein Sein > has assured his Thai counterpart Abhisit Vejjajiva that his country > would not allow anyone opposing Thailand to use its soil as a > springboard to attack the kingdom, according to the Thai News Agency > (TNA).
> Thein Sein, who is now attending the 15th Association of Southeast > Asian Nations (ASEAN) summit being held in the Thai resorts of Hua Hin > and Cha-am, reportedly told Abhisit on the sidelines of the summit > Friday, that Myanmar upheld the principle of living in harmony and > that it would not allow anyone opposing Thailand wishing to use his > country as springboard in attacking this country.
> Expressing his confidence that Southeast Asian countries, including > Thailand, could sail through obstacles and negative challenges, Thein > Sein told Abhisit that both Myanmar and Thailand share a long border > and both countries have to depend with each other and good > neighbourliness is, therefore, significant.
> Thein Sein's remarks were made after Abhisit and Cambodian Prime > Minister Hun Sen traded words after the Khmer leader reasserted Friday > on arriving for the ASEAN summit that his government would reject any > Thai request to extradite former Thai prime minister Thaksin > Shinawatra if the self-exiled ex-premier accepts an invitation for > refuge in Cambodia.
> Hun Sen told journalists to read the extradition treaty thoroughly to > understand why the former Thai premier, whom he described as his > friend, can stay in Cambodia as a guest of the Cambodian government.
> Ousted in a bloodless coup in September 2006, Thaksin jumped bail and > fled sentencing to a two-year jail term for malfeasance in the > controversial Bangkok's Ratchadapisek land purchase case.
> The toppled Thai premier now spends most of his time in the United > Arab Emirates after his status as a visitor was rejected by a number > of countries including both the United Kingdom and Germany.
> Thanking Myanmar for its support given to Thailand as chairman of > ASEAN, Abhisit told Thein Sein that his government supports Japan's > financial assistance bestowed to Myanmar on various projects, > including developing hospitals and schools.
> Abhisit said his government, as a close neighbour to Myanmar and host > of ASEAN, had told every country to strengthen ties with Myanmar and > had requested the Myanmar government leader to "unofficially report" > on progress on development projects in his country during the ASEAN > summit on Saturday.
> Wishing Myanmar to successfully hold its general election next year, > Abhisit also told Thein Sein that he hopes to officially visit Myanmar > when he has the opportunity and to also meet Myanmar's opposition > leader Aung San Suu Kyi to boost democracy for the world community.
> The leaders of ASEAN's 10 member countries--Brunei, Cambodia, > Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, > Thailand and Vietnam-- are holding their three-day summit in the Thai > resorts with their six dialogue partners--China, South Korea, Japan, > India, Australia and New Zealand.
> The summit ends Sunday.
> -- BERNAMA
HERE IS THE NEWS.
October 24, 2009 16:00 PM Myanmar Won't Allow Thailand's Foe To Use Its Soil, Says PM
HUA HIN, Oct 24 (Bernama) -- Myanmar Prime Minister General Thein Sein has assured his Thai counterpart Abhisit Vejjajiva that his country would not allow anyone opposing Thailand to use its soil as a springboard to attack the kingdom, according to the Thai News Agency (TNA). ================================================================ Dear Myanmar Myo Chits, Patriots,
Thein Sein is a real diplomat. When he speaks , its full of meanings. So neat, so tidy, so powerful , always come short to the point. Those who can read his minds , those who can read his small prints, or between the lines or under the dotted lines can see clearly. Whether Thai PM , can read him of not I am not sure.
Myanmar is not like Thailand . It never enjoys any foreign military supports from any foreign lands. For the future it also enshrined in the 2008 Constitution about not to have any foreign troops in Thailand.
Visible or invisible Myanmar do not want any military bases not even as a US Military Research Laboratory or Centre like the one Thailand has. Myanmar will protect and defend Myanmar and its people from any kind of enemy and foe.
Thein Sein said , “ that Myanmar upheld the principle of living in harmony and that it would not allow anyone opposing Thailand wishing to use his country as springboard in attacking this country.” He means it.
KNU used Thailand as springboard in attacking Myanmar . When Thein Sein told Abhisit that both Myanmar and Thailand share a long border and both countries have to depend with each other and good neighbourliness is, therefore, significant.” Whether Thai PM Abhisit the young man understands and knows what Thein Seain was saying or not, I am not sure.
Thailand is facing some problems in the south of the country , concerning Muslims. Some Muslims from Myanmar who called themselves, Rohingyas are joining the Muslims in the South of Thailand. As Thailand enjoys US supports , I am not surprise that the Muslims are giving troubles to Thailand, It ism understandable.
Pakistan was OK, before, it was alright, when Musharaff was on duty. Only when civilian came in and Pakistan allied with the US, accept US supports, things are started to happen in Pakistan. Getting worse in recent days. Who is who , who is doing what nobody can say. Terrorists, Freedom fighters, fake terrorists, bogus terrorists, self inflicted to justify its own actions, etc. Human minds, travels much faster than sound, super sonic.
NLD led by Mrs Aris prefers US involvements, how will they justify themselves , I do not know. I am sorry say the NLD led by Mrs Aris or the opposition cannot take any credit for some of the progress and some of the developments in Myanmar. Because they have done all they could to strip Myanmar off with everything. Myanmars are not starving to death they live in the ir own house they are happy with whatever nature provides them.
The fact is, it is costly to please the US. It is expensive to keep, US happy. US is already in the Pakistan, which Pakistan can do nothing, like it or not, willing or not, with its consent or not. US is there, it is real.
Now Myanmar is in the process of talking with US. What will be the consequences to this, we don’t know. Myanmar is at the moment a peaceful country compare to others . Thanks to SPDC. There is law and order in the country. .
If Myamar and Thai have has any existing treaty on extradition , there are lost of so called Myanmars in Thailand to be extradited to Myanmar, who most of them are in Chang Mai and around. Khmer leader will never forget, as a matter of fact nobody will ever forget that , US launched it attacks on Vietnam, Cambodia , and Laos using Thailand as it’s launching pad.
Myanmar will never interfere in other countries international affairs. It will stick to none interference policy of the ASEAN itself.
Abhisit himself said that he himself had told every country to strengthen ties with Myanmar and had requested the Myanmar government leader to "unofficially report" on progress on development projects in his country during the ASEAN summit on Saturday.”
“ that his government supports Japan's financial assistance bestowed to Myanmar on various projects, including developing hospitals and schools”, That’s what Abhisit said
A progress is a progress, a development is a developments. Nobody can fake progress or a fake developments . UN agencies and NGOs are there in Myanmar, diplomatic missions are there in Myanmar. Only they can make fake reports if they want to. That is how they did it to Iraq.
What did he ( Abhisit )mean by, to make “ unofficiall report ”. What the hel, was he talking about? A cheeky man he is.
“Abhisit also told Thein Sein that he hopes to officially visit Myanmar when he has the opportunity and to also meet Myanmar's opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi to boost democracy for the world community’’
Abhisit also know how to take the opportunity. He was clever enough to say that he will not visit , if he cannot meet opposition leader. Are these his own words or somebody put them in his mouth. No other leaders of any Asean nation said it like that.
In my view, as the host to the summit, Abhisit was thoroughly insulting Thein Sein and Myanmars in his own way. Imdo hope Abhists got Thein Sein's message.
You are advised to use your own wise discretions as the tagged post may contain Lies, Deceptions, Disinformations, Misinformations, vulgar flavours Distortion of History of Burma, Propagandas and is suspected to be from pertinent authorities through one of their proxies. ----------------- သေချင်းဆိုးကြီး၊ ခွေးမသားကြီး မိုးဂြိုးလိမ်၏ လုပ်နေကြ လိမ်ညာမှု၊ လှည့်ဖြားမှု၊ ဂျောက်တွန်းမှု၊ ရိုင်စိုင်းမှု၊ ရာဇဝင်ကို လန်ကြုပ်ရေးမှု၊ ဝါဒဖြန့်မှု၊ တို့မှာ မတရား တိုင်းပြည်အာဏာကို ခိုးယူဖျက်စီးနေသော စစ်ခွေးအဖွဲ့ spdc ၏ခိုင်းစေသည့် ကျွန်လုပ်ရပ်သာ ဖြစ်လေသည်။ ------------ Komaykoloegyi mogyothwar the lein_nya , thway_saung, phya_yaung, gyauk_toon, yine_sine, wah_dar phyant, tine_pyi_phyet sit_khwe spdc oke_su ye ar_maint pay arh_tine yay_thar hmu ko tha_di pyu shaung_shar gya ba. -------------- Xtras: Ethnic cleansing in Burma.----- http://doiop.com/mogyothwar http://doiop.com/mogyonwarhttp://doiop.com/mogyokhwe
> You are advised to use your own wise discretions as the tagged post may > contain Lies, Deceptions, Disinformations, Misinformations, vulgar flavours > Distortion of History of Burma, Propagandas and is suspected to be from > pertinent authorities through one of their proxies. > ----------------- > သေချင်းဆိုးကြီး၊ ခွေးမသားကြီး မိုးဂြိုးလိမ်၏ လုပ်နေကြ လိမ်ညာမှု၊ လှည့်ဖြားမှု၊ > ဂျောက်တွန်းမှု၊ ရိုင်စိုင်းမှု၊ ရာဇဝင်ကို လန်ကြုပ်ရေးမှု၊ > ဝါဒဖြန့်မှု၊ တို့မှာ မတရား တိုင်းပြည်အာဏာကို ခိုးယူဖျက်စီးနေသော စစ်ခွေးအဖွဲ့ spdc ၏ခိုင်းစေသည့် > ကျွန်လုပ်ရပ်သာ ဖြစ်လေသည်။ > ------------ > Komaykoloegyi mogyothwar the lein_nya , thway_saung, phya_yaung, gyauk_toon, > yine_sine, wah_dar phyant, tine_pyi_phyet > sit_khwe spdc oke_su ye ar_maint pay arh_tine yay_thar hmu ko tha_di pyu > shaung_shar gya ba. > -------------- > Xtras: Ethnic cleansing in Burma.-----http://doiop.com/mogyothwarhttp://doiop.com/mogyonwar http://doiop.com/mogyokhwe
> (> > (> Regards , > (> > (> Mogyothwar
Dear All,
" Myanmar Won't Allow Thailand's Foe To Use Its Soil," Says Myanmar PM Thein Sein
Why did he say that. what made him say that , what provoked him to say that? What he did not say was, " Myanmar won't attack Thailand.when Myanmar is under attack by Thais and its friends." Myanmars makes no enemy . If other take Myanmar as their enemy, its hard luck. Thailand and Myanmar had a history. Thailand even made it as tourist attractions everyday. What the Thais don't realise is that, though they meant to insult Myanmars everyday, Thai are glorifying Myanmars in their own way. Tourist found out how strong Myanmars were,how great Myanmars were. Sadly, that is one of the reasons why Thai and its friends do not want Myanmar to be strong again. Ye baw Mathey - They Thaw Nga Ye Malar , That is the spirit of Myanma Tatmadaw Some Kayins and Thais were hands in hands against Myanmar. Could go back to cenrturies. Thais impersonated as Myanmar to wage war against their own King.
In the past Thaiand allowed Myanmar's foes KNU to attack Myanmar from Thai soil using Thailand as launching pad. Thailand gave santuary to the KNU on Thai soil . KNU was protected by Thai Thailand even attacked Myanmar, to sheild KNU to protect KNU. saying Myanmar Tatmadaw's bullets, and shell landed on Thailand soil.
Thailand never allowed Myanma Tatmadaw to attack KNU. ( Note. Pakistan allowing US to attack Taleban on its soil). Thailand issued Thai Passports or travel documents to KNU official to travel around the world. Tensions were very high between Thailand and Myanmar because of KNU. Myanmar does not want to have another tension rise becaus of Thai land is the friend of US.
Thailand must never forget, that it was the Patriotic spirits of Vietnam Cabodia and Laos that kicked US arse, It was Myanmar Patriotic spirit, that drove English and Japanes out of Myanmar.
Myanmar PM Thein Sein did not have to spell out who Thailand's Foes are? Thailand is not a true friend to anybody, any of its neighbour.
Besides Thailand is the enemy to many Asean Nations, as you all already aware. Thailand is the enemy of Vietnam, enemy of Cambodia, enemy of Laos and enemy of N Korea and enemy of some muslims in the South of Thailand. Muslim countries such as Indonesia, Malaysia are Philippines as a Christian country is alone. They also know Thailand has no principals. Thailand did a great mistake, by letting US and allies used Thailand to wage war against the said countries Thailanmd won't hesitate to let US use Thai soil if US prepared to attack Myanmar. Since US was fored out of Vietnam and South East Asia Thailand is livng in Fear, living with its own guilty conscience. seeking the protection of US for picking the wrong horse.
Thailand has more enemies than friends.
It could be said. because of Thailand, Myanmar is in ASEAN. If others did not accept, Myanmar won't be in ASEAN. Thailand wanted Myanmar in Asean, to make itself safe.
> On Oct 26, 9:38 pm, SCB Advisory Board <scb....@aesig.org> wrote:
> > You are advised to use your own wise discretions as the tagged post may > > contain Lies, Deceptions, Disinformations, Misinformations, vulgar flavours > > Distortion of History of Burma, Propagandas and is suspected to be from > > pertinent authorities through one of their proxies. > > ----------------- > > သေချင်းဆိုးကြီး၊ ခွေးမသားကြီး မိုးဂြိုးလိမ်၏ လုပ်နေကြ လိမ်ညာမှု၊ လှည့်ဖြားမှု၊ > > ဂျောက်တွန်းမှု၊ ရိုင်စိုင်းမှု၊ ရာဇဝင်ကို လန်ကြုပ်ရေးမှု၊ > > ဝါဒဖြန့်မှု၊ တို့မှာ မတရား တိုင်းပြည်အာဏာကို ခိုးယူဖျက်စီးနေသော စစ်ခွေးအဖွဲ့ spdc ၏ခိုင်းစေသည့် > > ကျွန်လုပ်ရပ်သာ ဖြစ်လေသည်။ > > ------------ > > Komaykoloegyi mogyothwar the lein_nya , thway_saung, phya_yaung, gyauk_toon, > > yine_sine, wah_dar phyant, tine_pyi_phyet > > sit_khwe spdc oke_su ye ar_maint pay arh_tine yay_thar hmu ko tha_di pyu > > shaung_shar gya ba. > > -------------- > > Xtras: Ethnic cleansing in Burma.-----http://doiop.com/mogyothwarhttp://doiop.com/mogyonwar http://doiop.com/mogyokhwe
> > (> > > (> Regards , > > (> > > (> Mogyothwar
> Dear All,
> " Myanmar Won't Allow Thailand's Foe To Use Its Soil," Says Myanmar PM > Thein Sein
> Why did he say that. what made him say that , what provoked him to say > that? > What he did not say was, " Myanmar won't attack Thailand.when Myanmar > is under attack by Thais and its friends." > Myanmars makes no enemy . If other take Myanmar as their enemy, its > hard luck. > Thailand and Myanmar had a history. Thailand even made it as tourist > attractions everyday. > What the Thais don't realise is that, though they meant to insult > Myanmars everyday, Thai are glorifying Myanmars in their own way. > Tourist found out how strong Myanmars were,how great Myanmars were. > Sadly, that is one of the reasons why Thai and its friends do not want > Myanmar to be strong again. > Ye baw Mathey - They Thaw Nga Ye Malar , That is the spirit of Myanma > Tatmadaw > Some Kayins and Thais were hands in hands against Myanmar. Could go > back to cenrturies. > Thais impersonated as Myanmar to wage war against their own King.
> In the past Thaiand allowed Myanmar's foes KNU to attack Myanmar from > Thai soil using Thailand as launching pad. > Thailand gave santuary to the KNU on Thai soil . KNU was protected by > Thai > Thailand even attacked Myanmar, to sheild KNU to protect KNU. saying > Myanmar Tatmadaw's bullets, and shell landed on Thailand soil.
> Thailand never allowed Myanma Tatmadaw to attack KNU. ( Note. > Pakistan allowing US to attack Taleban on its soil). > Thailand issued Thai Passports or travel documents to KNU official to > travel around the world. > Tensions were very high between Thailand and Myanmar because of KNU. > Myanmar does not want to have another tension rise becaus of Thai land > is the friend of US.
> Thailand must never forget, that it was the Patriotic spirits of > Vietnam Cabodia and Laos that kicked US arse, > It was Myanmar Patriotic spirit, that drove English and Japanes out of > Myanmar.
> Myanmar PM Thein Sein did not have to spell out who Thailand's Foes > are? > Thailand is not a true friend to anybody, any of its neighbour.
> Besides Thailand is the enemy to many Asean Nations, as you all > already aware. > Thailand is the enemy of Vietnam, enemy of Cambodia, enemy of Laos and > enemy of N Korea and enemy of some muslims in the South of Thailand. > Muslim countries such as Indonesia, Malaysia are Philippines as a > Christian country is alone. They also know Thailand has no principals. > Thailand did a great mistake, by letting US and allies used Thailand > to wage war against the said countries > Thailanmd won't hesitate to let US use Thai soil if US prepared to > attack Myanmar. > Since US was fored out of Vietnam and South East Asia Thailand is > livng in Fear, living with its own guilty conscience. seeking the > protection of US for picking the wrong horse.
> Thailand has more enemies than friends.
> It could be said. because of Thailand, Myanmar is in ASEAN. If > others did not accept, Myanmar won't be in ASEAN. > Thailand wanted Myanmar in Asean, to make itself safe.
> > " Myanmar Won't Allow Thailand's Foe To Use Its Soil," Says Myanmar PM > > Thein Sein
> > Why did he say that. what made him say that , what provoked him to say > > that? > > What he did not say was, " Myanmar won't attack Thailand.when Myanmar > > is under attack by Thais and its friends." > > Myanmars makes no enemy . If other take Myanmar as their enemy, its > > hard luck. > > Thailand and Myanmar had a history. Thailand even made it as tourist > > attractions everyday. > > What the Thais don't realise is that, though they meant to insult > > Myanmars everyday, Thai are glorifying Myanmars in their own way. > > Tourist found out how strong Myanmars were,how great Myanmars were. > > Sadly, that is one of the reasons why Thai and its friends do not want > > Myanmar to be strong again. > > Ye baw Mathey - They Thaw Nga Ye Malar , That is the spirit of Myanma > > Tatmadaw > > Some Kayins and Thais were hands in hands against Myanmar. Could go > > back to cenrturies. > > Thais impersonated as Myanmar to wage war against their own King.
> > In the past Thaiand allowed Myanmar's foes KNU to attack Myanmar from > > Thai soil using Thailand as launching pad. > > Thailand gave santuary to the KNU on Thai soil . KNU was protected by > > Thai > > Thailand even attacked Myanmar, to sheild KNU to protect KNU. saying > > Myanmar Tatmadaw's bullets, and shell landed on Thailand soil.
> > Thailand never allowed Myanma Tatmadaw to attack KNU. ( Note. > > Pakistan allowing US to attack Taleban on its soil). > > Thailand issued Thai Passports or travel documents to KNU official to > > travel around the world. > > Tensions were very high between Thailand and Myanmar because of KNU. > > Myanmar does not want to have another tension rise becaus of Thai land > > is the friend of US.
> > Thailand must never forget, that it was the Patriotic spirits of > > Vietnam Cabodia and Laos that kicked US arse, > > It was Myanmar Patriotic spirit, that drove English and Japanes out of > > Myanmar.
> > Myanmar PM Thein Sein did not have to spell out who Thailand's Foes > > are? > > Thailand is not a true friend to anybody, any of its neighbour.
> > Besides Thailand is the enemy to many Asean Nations, as you all > > already aware. > > Thailand is the enemy of Vietnam, enemy of Cambodia, enemy of Laos and > > enemy of N Korea and enemy of some muslims in the South of Thailand. > > Muslim countries such as Indonesia, Malaysia are Philippines as a > > Christian country is alone. They also know Thailand has no principals. > > Thailand did a great mistake, by letting US and allies used Thailand > > to wage war against the said countries > > Thailanmd won't hesitate to let US use Thai soil if US prepared to > > attack Myanmar. > > Since US was fored out of Vietnam and South East Asia Thailand is > > livng in Fear, living with its own guilty conscience. seeking the > > protection of US for picking the wrong horse.
> > Thailand has more enemies than friends.
> > It could be said. because of Thailand, Myanmar is in ASEAN. If > > others did not accept, Myanmar won't be in ASEAN. > > Thailand wanted Myanmar in Asean, to make itself safe.
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la Comtesse Erzsebet de Bathory,
Its nice of you to cut in. Thanks for your valuable information which said,
" Thai population are buying electricity from Myanmar. Thai has hydropower investment in Myanmar . Texaco or Caltex has a Gaz pipeline in Myanmar pumping gaz to supply Bangkok ".
The questions are why Myanmar has electricity shortage? Because Myanmar population don't want to buy, they don't want to pay, for electricity, not even for the cost of producing it. the cost of investments. Myanmars want it free, they expect it free, because they consider this is theirs.
Thai hydropower investment in Myanmar is to produce electricity to export to Thailand only, not for domestic use within Myanmar? Because Myanmar cannot pay, not willing to pay. Myanmar government has to buy from them and redistribute to it people in a lose , because as I said Myanmars don’t pay, they won’t pay . They rather steal the electricity from the wires.
Texaco or Caltex , why not they have gaz supply to Myanmar, why supply to Bangkok? There may be many answers to this. Some of them are, these foreign firms are getting away, from economic sanctions loop holes. because Myanmars and SPDC are not benefiting as much as it should be. They are paid a tiny fractions of the profit they are making. Because the oil and gas happened to be in the hands of foreign forms not in the hands of Myanmars. Their investments in Myanmmar are also safe.
New Constitution guarantees under section 36 ( d ), it clearly stated that, “ Union shall, not nationalize economic enterprises .”
You may also see clearly through Texaco or Caltex, and others , how hypocritical US or the west is. They like to have their hands on profitable business and enterprises only while economic sanctions being imposed on Myanmar, intact .
> > > " Myanmar Won't Allow Thailand's Foe To Use Its Soil," Says Myanmar PM > > > Thein Sein
> > > Why did he say that. what made him say that , what provoked him to say > > > that? > > > What he did not say was, " Myanmar won't attack Thailand.when Myanmar > > > is under attack by Thais and its friends." > > > Myanmars makes no enemy . If other take Myanmar as their enemy, its > > > hard luck. > > > Thailand and Myanmar had a history. Thailand even made it as tourist > > > attractions everyday. > > > What the Thais don't realise is that, though they meant to insult > > > Myanmars everyday, Thai are glorifying Myanmars in their own way. > > > Tourist found out how strong Myanmars were,how great Myanmars were. > > > Sadly, that is one of the reasons why Thai and its friends do not want > > > Myanmar to be strong again. > > > Ye baw Mathey - They Thaw Nga Ye Malar , That is the spirit of Myanma > > > Tatmadaw > > > Some Kayins and Thais were hands in hands against Myanmar. Could go > > > back to cenrturies. > > > Thais impersonated as Myanmar to wage war against their own King.
> > > In the past Thaiand allowed Myanmar's foes KNU to attack Myanmar from > > > Thai soil using Thailand as launching pad. > > > Thailand gave santuary to the KNU on Thai soil . KNU was protected by > > > Thai > > > Thailand even attacked Myanmar, to sheild KNU to protect KNU. saying > > > Myanmar Tatmadaw's bullets, and shell landed on Thailand soil.
> > > Thailand never allowed Myanma Tatmadaw to attack KNU. ( Note. > > > Pakistan allowing US to attack Taleban on its soil). > > > Thailand issued Thai Passports or travel documents to KNU official to > > > travel around the world. > > > Tensions were very high between Thailand and Myanmar because of KNU. > > > Myanmar does not want to have another tension rise becaus of Thai land > > > is the friend of US.
> > > Thailand must never forget, that it was the Patriotic spirits of > > > Vietnam Cabodia and Laos that kicked US arse, > > > It was Myanmar Patriotic spirit, that drove English and Japanes out of > > > Myanmar.
> > > Myanmar PM Thein Sein did not have to spell out who Thailand's Foes > > > are? > > > Thailand is not a true friend to anybody, any of its neighbour.
> > > Besides Thailand is the enemy to many Asean Nations, as you all > > > already aware. > > > Thailand is the enemy of Vietnam, enemy of Cambodia, enemy of Laos and > > > enemy of N Korea and enemy of some muslims in the South of Thailand. > > > Muslim countries such as Indonesia, Malaysia are Philippines as a > > > Christian country is alone. They also know Thailand has no principals. > > > Thailand did a great mistake, by letting US and allies used Thailand > > > to wage war against the said countries > > > Thailanmd won't hesitate to let US use Thai soil if US prepared to > > > attack Myanmar. > > > Since US was fored out of Vietnam and South East Asia Thailand is > > > livng in Fear, living with its own guilty conscience. seeking the > > > protection of US for picking the wrong horse.
> > > Thailand has more enemies than friends.
> > > It could be said. because of Thailand, Myanmar is in ASEAN. If > > > others did not accept, Myanmar won't be in ASEAN. > > > Thailand wanted Myanmar in Asean, to make itself safe.
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> la Comtesse Erzsebet de Bathory,
> Its nice of you to cut in. Thanks for your valuable information which > said,
> " Thai population are buying electricity from Myanmar. > Thai has hydropower investment in Myanmar . > Texaco or Caltex has a Gaz pipeline in Myanmar pumping gaz > to supply Bangkok ".
> The questions are why Myanmar has electricity shortage? > Because Myanmar population don't want to buy, they don't want to pay, > for electricity, not even for the cost of producing it. the cost of > investments. Myanmars want it free, they expect it free, because > they consider this is theirs.
> Thai hydropower investment in Myanmar is to produce electricity to > export to Thailand only, not for domestic use within Myanmar? Because > Myanmar cannot pay, not willing to pay. Myanmar government has to buy > from them and redistribute to it people in a lose , because as I said > Myanmars don’t pay, they won’t pay . They rather steal the electricity > from the wires.
> Texaco or Caltex , why not they have gaz supply to Myanmar, why supply > to Bangkok? > There may be many answers to this. Some of them are, these foreign > firms are getting away, from economic sanctions loop holes. because > Myanmars and SPDC are not benefiting as much as it should be. They are > paid a tiny fractions of the profit they are making. Because the oil > and gas happened to be in the hands of foreign forms not in the hands > of Myanmars. Their investments in Myanmmar are also safe.
> New Constitution guarantees under section 36 ( d ), it clearly stated > that, “ Union shall, not nationalize economic enterprises .”
> You may also see clearly through Texaco or Caltex, and others , how > hypocritical US or the west is. They like to have their hands on > profitable business and enterprises only while economic sanctions > being imposed on Myanmar, intact .
On Oct 29, 3:09 am, Zo Khup <ginpyank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sando did you say Myanmar poeople steals electricity and don't want to > buy?
> If that is real, how the electricity department generates its revenue?
My man Zo Khup,
Are you a Myanmar, have you been to Myanmar , have you been there and study the general situations?
Tell us about your state. What about your own state in Myanmar, What State is that? Your name as Zo Khup tells me nothing.
Is there electricity, in your state, 24/7, do your people pay for it? How do they live in your state, with Candles or on moon light if the clouds are clear? Where did they get these candles from? Or all people in your state as blind as you are, they don’t need electricity at all to see, they can do without?
But, you have asked a very good and very relevant question Zkhup I am expecting that kind of questions. You have been talking non sense all the time. Are you trying to talk sense or what, for a change? Good man.
I did say, " Because Myanmar population don't want to buy, they don't want to pay, for electricity, not even for the cost of producing it, the cost of investments. Myanmars want it free, they expect it free, because they consider this is theirs."
It could be said in plain language , many Myanmar people steals electricty, yes true. When they are caught. they have had the outside court settlement.
Electricity departments supplying regular service to regular payers. Because of none regular payments. In another words, no contribution from the people, People don't take responsibility for their own use. Yet many people have, power converters to store the power which they do not use. They don't let other use either. They also have small portable power generators. The cost of converters and portable generators, they may be Chinese made , they are not cheap either.
Blackouts are a fact of life in Myanmar for the none regular payers. That happens in town and cities. Village life has no change since the days I remember.
It won’t be an exaggeration if I'd say some of them do not even know what electricity is. Even in most advanced developed nations in the world , miles and miles of highways, away from town and cities have no lights. Electricity cost money. Nobody willing to pay for highway lights. Yet they are using highways.
In Myanmar Factories, and workshops ,markets, government departments gets priority. Many of them are provided with emergency generators. BTW, emergency electric power is everywhere in the world in case of emergency. In Myanmar only emergency services work 24/7.
There is no night life in Myanmar. When the sun goes down Myanmar is covered with darkness. Most people sleep.
Don't you forget that, Myanmar is registered as " Least Developed Country " by the United Nations, before the economic sanction are imposed by the West. Myanmar is being barred to get loan from World Bank, IMF or even ADB which are dominated by the West, or under the control of the West.
I always talk about Realities, which is in other words the Truth. A nation is build by the people of that nation, not by the government of that nation. It has the meaning, if only you could know.
> On Oct 29, 3:09 am, Zo Khup <ginpyank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sando did you say Myanmar poeople steals electricity and don't want to > > buy?
> > If that is real, how the electricity department generates its revenue?
> My man Zo Khup,
> Are you a Myanmar, have you been to Myanmar , have you been there and > study the general situations?
> Tell us about your state. What about your own state in Myanmar, What > State is that? Your name as Zo Khup tells me nothing.
> Is there electricity, in your state, 24/7, do your people pay for it? > How do they live in your state, with Candles or on moon light if the > clouds are clear? Where did they get these candles from? Or all > people in your state as blind as you are, they don’t need electricity > at all to see, they can do without?
> But, you have asked a very good and very relevant question Zkhup I am > expecting that kind of questions. You have been talking non sense all > the time. Are you trying to talk sense or what, for a change? Good > man.
> I did say, " Because Myanmar population don't want to buy, they don't > want to pay, for electricity, not even for the cost of producing it, > the cost of investments. Myanmars want it free, they expect it free, > because they consider this is theirs."
> It could be said in plain language , many Myanmar people steals > electricty, yes true. When they are caught. they have had the outside > court settlement.
> Electricity departments supplying regular service to regular payers. > Because of none regular payments. In another words, no contribution > from the people, People don't take responsibility for their own use. > Yet many people have, power converters to store the power which they > do not use. They don't let other use either. They also have small > portable power generators. The cost of converters and portable > generators, they may be Chinese made , they are not cheap either.
> Blackouts are a fact of life in Myanmar for the none regular payers. > That happens in town and cities. Village life has no change since the > days I remember.
> It won’t be an exaggeration if I'd say some of them do not even know > what electricity is. > Even in most advanced developed nations in the world , miles and miles > of highways, away from town and cities have no lights. Electricity > cost money. Nobody willing to pay for highway lights. Yet they are > using highways.
> In Myanmar Factories, and workshops ,markets, government departments > gets priority. Many of them are provided with emergency generators. > BTW, emergency electric power is everywhere in the world in case of > emergency. In Myanmar only emergency services work 24/7.
> There is no night life in Myanmar. When the sun goes down Myanmar is > covered with darkness. Most people sleep.
> Don't you forget that, Myanmar is registered as " Least Developed > Country " by the United Nations, before the economic sanction are > imposed by the West. Myanmar is being barred to get loan from World > Bank, IMF or even ADB which are dominated by the West, or under the > control of the West.
> I always talk about Realities, which is in other words the Truth. A > nation is build by the people of that nation, not by the government of > that nation. It has the meaning, if only you could know.
<voivodv...@gmail.com> wrote: > the people in Myanmar are poor ,
> Chinese are operating casino in Kokang , > in Wa Parn in East Myanmar .
> n Oct 29, 2:20 pm, Sando <shweminth...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 29, 3:09 am, Zo Khup <ginpyank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sando did you say Myanmar poeople steals electricity and don't want to > > > buy?
> > > If that is real, how the electricity department generates its revenue?
> > My man Zo Khup,
> > Are you a Myanmar, have you been to Myanmar , have you been there and > > study the general situations?
> > Tell us about your state. What about your own state in Myanmar, What > > State is that? Your name as Zo Khup tells me nothing.
> > Is there electricity, in your state, 24/7, do your people pay for it? > > How do they live in your state, with Candles or on moon light if the > > clouds are clear? Where did they get these candles from? Or all > > people in your state as blind as you are, they don’t need electricity > > at all to see, they can do without?
> > But, you have asked a very good and very relevant question Zkhup I am > > expecting that kind of questions. You have been talking non sense all > > the time. Are you trying to talk sense or what, for a change? Good > > man.
> > I did say, " Because Myanmar population don't want to buy, they don't > > want to pay, for electricity, not even for the cost of producing it, > > the cost of investments. Myanmars want it free, they expect it free, > > because they consider this is theirs."
> > It could be said in plain language , many Myanmar people steals > > electricty, yes true. When they are caught. they have had the outside > > court settlement.
> > Electricity departments supplying regular service to regular payers. > > Because of none regular payments. In another words, no contribution > > from the people, People don't take responsibility for their own use. > > Yet many people have, power converters to store the power which they > > do not use. They don't let other use either. They also have small > > portable power generators. The cost of converters and portable > > generators, they may be Chinese made , they are not cheap either.
> > Blackouts are a fact of life in Myanmar for the none regular payers. > > That happens in town and cities. Village life has no change since the > > days I remember.
> > It won’t be an exaggeration if I'd say some of them do not even know > > what electricity is. > > Even in most advanced developed nations in the world , miles and miles > > of highways, away from town and cities have no lights. Electricity > > cost money. Nobody willing to pay for highway lights. Yet they are > > using highways.
> > In Myanmar Factories, and workshops ,markets, government departments > > gets priority. Many of them are provided with emergency generators. > > BTW, emergency electric power is everywhere in the world in case of > > emergency. In Myanmar only emergency services work 24/7.
> > There is no night life in Myanmar. When the sun goes down Myanmar is > > covered with darkness. Most people sleep.
> > Don't you forget that, Myanmar is registered as " Least Developed > > Country " by the United Nations, before the economic sanction are > > imposed by the West. Myanmar is being barred to get loan from World > > Bank, IMF or even ADB which are dominated by the West, or under the > > control of the West.
> > I always talk about Realities, which is in other words the Truth. A > > nation is build by the people of that nation, not by the government of > > that nation. It has the meaning, if only you could know.
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"the people in Myanmar are poor "
Is that the fact ? I wonder who is making them poor. Myanmar is registered as the Least Developed Country. Yet economic sanction is imposed on by the West.
I have seen ,people from human species are living in card board boxes under the bridges and by the streets of US and in UK and dying there .
Myanmar’s next door neighbour, in India some children are living in cages, like chickens to be sold for hourly basis , to the highest bidders for one hour or two for pleasure. India is a democratic country, as well as a member of British Commonwealth nation. It posses nuclear weapon
" Chinese are operating casino in Kokang , in Wa Parn in East Myanmar ".
Are you sure, have you been there , have you seen it?
You must be the expert. Tell us more please.
I’ve also heard the whole of Las Vegas in US is a gambling city, where Chinese and everybody are operating. Not only gambling dens, in Las Vegas , but also human dens as well.
You can get anything you want in Las Vegas , if you can pay.
US is the most advance, modern developed nation . Super power they called it. Some people thought it is one of the heavens on earth. But many people most of them, their own people called it, it is a living hell on earth.
That is Freedom, that is the land of the Free. Free to be rich, Free to be poor.
Don't pretend to be stupid, because you are not. You know quite well that TS ordered oppression to be carried out by the Tatmadaw. Like Radovan Karadzic of former Yugoslavia, who currently stands trial before the United Nations war crimes tribunal in The Hague (even while he refuses to be present) for genocide, TS did not commit those crimes with his own bare hands, but he gave orders to the Tatmadaw for various kinds of human rights violations, including murder and rape. Well, he may not have ordered rape explicitly, but he gave the Tatmadaw the authority and right to do whatever necessary to force people to stop resisting the junta and to obey them. Rape cases were never punished to the offenders as far as I know.
TS is also responsible for the total destruction of thousands of villages, the dispelling of its inhabitants and robbing them from their scanty possessions. He can be accused of many more crimes, like deprivation of freedom, robbing, destruction of the country's economy, torture, most of which can be summarised as crimes towards humanity, severe human rights violations. The expelling and killing of Rohingyas is a very sad, recent example. I hope he will still live when brought to trial and hears his sentence. That would be best to many survivors of his cruel rule.
Crimes like lying, deceiving, disregarding the people's wishes, (violently) forcing the people to assent with the junta's wishes, rigging voting results and referendum procedures do not fall in the category of HR violations, but on itself are serious enough to convict him for. Yet he should not be the only one to stand trial, his fellow generals should join him as well as many other high ranked and responsible officers. They all acted consciously and deliberately for reasons of self-enrichment and perverted exercise of power, not for reasons of protecting the Burmese people or liberating them from some other source of repression or fighting (inter)national terrorists targeting innocent people.
You obviously chose the wrong and eventually losing side, it would be good for you to experience that while still alive too, because you can't be prosecuted for anything you said and will say (write) in SCB and other forums, unless calling for carrying out all kinds of human rights violations, provoking others to commit those. Internet forums have freedom of speech and information exchange and talking/writing in principle is not prohibited or punishable. I would like to keep it that way.
You must know quite a lot about our fellow Labour for accusing him of specific crimes. Would you want to make some impression with your made up list of crimes? Or do you keep him responsible for what happened in 1988? Do we also have to keep you responsible for what happened in 1988 and since then? I sincerely hope not.
Regards, JRB
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Disclaimer: these views are entirely my own and unrelated to my nationality, my home country and its political stances and they are independent of and not contrary to my views on other similar events and human rights violations elsewhere in the world.
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your stupidities are endless, all the electric power projects were built with public taxes. Why you are still talking as your ( army) owned company,. Remember that the country is not your father's private property.
> your stupidities are endless, all the electric power projects were > built with public taxes. Why you are still talking as your ( army) > owned company,. Remember that the country is not your father's private > property.
On Oct 31, 3:01 am, "Zohan Dvir Scrappy , the High Priest of
Sophia" <hinduvis...@gmail.com> wrote: > people in Cambodia also steal electricity .
> Oct 31, 9:04 am, Zo Khup <ginpyank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sando,
> > your stupidities are endless, all the electric power projects were > > built with public taxes. Why you are still talking as your ( army) > > owned company,. Remember that the country is not your father's private > > property.- Hide quoted text -
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Zo Khup,
You are more stupid than I thought. What an ignorant you are.
What public money? You need to bring it on with more
How many of 57 million have regular income to pay taxes for these projects.
Do you pay tax, what about your father ?
Government is government army or civilian.elected or self imposed or installed by the outsiderrs.(your fathers)
In Myanmar Tatmadaw (the army) as SPDC is the government of today. Recognised by the United Nations, Whether YOU like it or not is irrelevent.
What ever army owned is , even the shoes and socks they are wearing is the nation's propverty. Every Tome , Dick and Harry knows that.
Private owned companies, joint ventures companies, army owned, government own, what's the difference?
Myanmmar is a Private Proverty . Myanmar belongs to Myanmars. Myanmar is Privately owned by the Myanmars.
My father also is a Myanmar. I am a Myanmar . I don't know about you or your father, you mother might know.
Just because it is our ( Myanmars) own property, to say it very rudely, nobody can f - - k Mynamars as they like especially Myanmars cannot f - - k their own country. I hope, everybody in the world respect that private ownership.
Since 1948 when Myanmars got their country back from the British they have been f - - king their own country, their own people. They did not like British were f - - -king, they didi not like Japanese were f- - king them. They ( Myanmars all Myanmars ) have to f - - k themselves.
Some of them with he help of the their surrogate fathers, adopted fathers, their mother' teasers. Those who already have had their foprefather f - - ked. Even today, so called Myanmars like you are woho are outside f - - king . Myanmar and its people in your own ways. Your pure hatred for the Tatmadaw ( army ) won't help Myanmars electricity problems. Think of somethig else.
Now you know, Myanmar is in need of electricity, among other things. Myanmars are not paying for their useage, reluctant to pay, instead they are doing what they like because it is their property. Stealing their own property.
If they don't want to pay, they should not be using it, as simple as that. They have no rights to moan,no rights to groan. No money, no honey, that's it.
Myanmars must learn everything in hard way.
Do you accept what is going on in Myanmar. Do you have any investments in Myanmar , for the sake of the people, for the sake of the nation, at least for the sake of yourself? To make money, to accumalate monies, to make profit for yourself ? If you cannot make reasonable profit for yourself.your business will die out tomorrow. Your money will dry out.
Can you understand what I am saying? If you cannot understand what I am saying, you better drop dead Zo Khup.
You are more stupid than I thought. In fact you are an ignorant.
> On Oct 31, 3:01 am, "Zohan Dvir Scrappy , the High Priest of
> Sophia" <hinduvis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > people in Cambodia also steal electricity .
> > Oct 31, 9:04 am, Zo Khup <ginpyank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sando,
> > > your stupidities are endless, all the electric power projects were > > > built with public taxes. Why you are still talking as your ( army) > > > owned company,. Remember that the country is not your father's private > > > property.- Hide quoted text -
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> Zo Khup,
> You are more stupid than I thought. What an ignorant you are.
> What public money? You need to bring it on with more
> How many of 57 million have regular income to pay taxes for these > projects.
> Do you pay tax, what about your father ?
> Government is government army or civilian.elected or self imposed or > installed by the outsiderrs.(your fathers)
> In Myanmar Tatmadaw (the army) as SPDC is the government of today. > Recognised by the United Nations, Whether YOU like it or not is > irrelevent.
> What ever army owned is , even the shoes and socks they are wearing is > the nation's propverty. Every Tome , Dick and Harry knows that.
> Private owned companies, joint ventures companies, army owned, > government own, what's the difference?
> Myanmmar is a Private Proverty . Myanmar belongs to Myanmars. Myanmar > is Privately owned by the Myanmars.
> My father also is a Myanmar. I am a Myanmar . I don't know about you > or your father, you mother might know.
> Just because it is our ( Myanmars) own property, to say it very > rudely, nobody can f - - k Mynamars as they like especially Myanmars > cannot f - - k their own country. I hope, everybody in the world > respect that private ownership.
> Since 1948 when Myanmars got their country back from the British they > have been f - - king their own country, their own people. > They did not like British were f - - -king, they didi not like > Japanese were f- - king them. They ( Myanmars all Myanmars ) have to f > - - k themselves.
> Some of them with he help of the their surrogate fathers, adopted > fathers, their mother' teasers. Those who already have had their > foprefather f - - ked. > Even today, so called Myanmars like you are woho are outside f - - > king . Myanmar and its people in your own ways. > Your pure hatred for the Tatmadaw ( army ) won't help Myanmars > electricity problems. Think of somethig else.
> Now you know, Myanmar is in need of electricity, among other things. > Myanmars are not paying for their useage, reluctant to pay, instead > they are doing what they like because it is their property. Stealing > their own property.
> If they don't want to pay, they should not be using it, as simple as > that. They have no rights to moan,no rights to groan. No money, no > honey, that's it.
> Myanmars must learn everything in hard way.
> Do you accept what is going on in Myanmar. Do you have any investments > in Myanmar , for the sake of the people, for the sake of the nation, > at least for the sake of yourself? To make money, to accumalate > monies, to make profit for yourself ? If you cannot make reasonable > profit for yourself.your business will die out tomorrow. Your money > will dry out.
> Can you understand what I am saying? If you cannot understand what I > am saying, you better drop dead Zo Khup.
> You are more stupid than I thought. In fact you are an ignorant.
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