/* For those mesmerized (or Mersenne-ized?) by a RNG with period 2^19937-1, I offer one here with period 54767*2^1337279---over 10^396564 times as long. It is one of my CMWC (Complimentary-Multiply-With-Carry) RNGs, and is suggested here as one of the components of a super-long-period KISS (Keep-It-Simple-Stupid) RNG.
With b=2^32 and a=7010176, and given a 32-bit x, and a 32-bit c, this generator produces a new x,c by forming 64-bit t=a*x+c then replacing: c=top 32 bits of t and x=(b-1)-(bottom 32 bits of t). In C: c=t>>32; x=~t;
For many years, CPUs have had machine instructions to form such a 64-bit t and extract the top and bottom halves, but unfortunately only recent Fortran versions have means to easily invoke them.
Ability to do those extractions leads to implementations that are simple and extremely fast---some 140 million per second on my desktop PC.
Used alone, this generator passes all the Diehard Battery of Tests, but its simplicity makes it well-suited to serve as one of the three components of a KISS RNG, based on the Keep-It-Simple-Stupid principle, and the idea, supported by both theory and practice, that the combination of RNGs based on different mathematical models can be no worse---and is usually better---than any of the components.
So here is a complete C version of what might be called a SUPER KISS RNG, combining, by addition mod 2^32, a Congruential RNG, a Xorshift RNG and the super-long-period CMWC RNG: */
#include <stdio.h> static unsigned long Q [41790],indx=41790,carry=362436,xcng=1236789,xs=521288629;
int refill( ) { int i; unsigned long long t; for(i=0;i<41790;i++) { t=7010176LL*Q[i]+carry; carry=(t>>32); Q[i]=~ (t);} indx=1; return (Q[0]); }
int main() {unsigned long i,x; for(i=0;i<41790;i++) Q[i]=CNG+XS; for(i=0;i<1000000000;i++) x=KISS; printf(" x=%d.\nDoes x=-872412446?\n",x);
}
/* Running this program should produce 10^9 KISSes in some 7-15 seconds. You are invited to cut, paste, compile and run for yourself, checking to see if the last value is as designated, (formatted as a signed integer for potential comparisons with systems using signed integers). You may want to report or comment on implementations for other languages.
The arithmetic operations are suited for either signed or unsigned integers. Thus, with (64-bit)t=a*x+c, x=t%b in C or x=mod(t,b) in Fortran, and c=c/b in either C or Fortran, but with ways to avoid integer divisions, and subsequent replacement of x by its base-b complement, ~x in C.
With b=2^32 and p=54767*2^1337287+1, the SUPR part of this Super KISS uses my CMWC method to produce, in reverse order, the base-b expansion of k/p for some k determined by the values used to seed the Q array. The period is the order of b for that prime p: 54767*2^1337279, about 2^1337294 or 10^402566. (It took a continuous run of 24+ days on an earlier PC to establish that order. My thanks to the wizards behind PFGW and to Phil Carmody for some suggested code.)
Even the Q's all zero, should seeding be overlooked in main(), will still produce a sequence of the required period, but will put the user in a strange and exceedingly rare place in the entire sequence. Users should choose a reasonable number of the 1337280 random bits that a fully-seeded Q array requires.
Using your own choices of merely 87 seed bits, 32 each for xcng,xs and 23 for carry<7010176, then initializing the Q array with for(i=0;i<41790;i++) Q[i]=CNG+XS; should serve well for many applications, but others, such as in Law or Gaming, where a minimum number of possible outcomes may be required, might need more of the 1337280 seed bits for the Q array.
As might applications in cryptography: With an unknown but fully- seeded Q array, a particular string of, say, 41000 successive SUPR values will appear at more than 2^20000 locations in the full sequence, making it virtually impossible to get the location of that particular string in the full loop, and thus predict coming or earlier values, even if able to undo the CNG+XS operations. */
/* So I again invite you to cut, paste, compile and run the above C program. 1000 million KISSes should be generated, and the specified result appear, by the time you count slowly to fifteen. (Without an optimizing compiler, you may have to count more slowly.) */
> /* > For those mesmerized (or Mersenne-ized?) by a RNG > with period 2^19937-1, I offer one here with period > 54767*2^1337279---over 10^396564 times as long. > It is one of my CMWC (Complimentary-Multiply-With-Carry) RNGs, > and is suggested here as one of the components of a > super-long-period KISS (Keep-It-Simple-Stupid) RNG.
> With b=2^32 and a=7010176, and given a 32-bit x, and a 32-bit c, this > generator produces a new x,c by forming 64-bit t=a*x+c then replacing: > c=top 32 bits of t and x=(b-1)-(bottom 32 bits of t). In C: c=t>>32; > x=~t;
> For many years, CPUs have had machine instructions to form such a > 64-bit t and extract the top and bottom halves, but unfortunately > only recent Fortran versions have means to easily invoke them.
> Ability to do those extractions leads to implementations that are > simple > and extremely fast---some 140 million per second on my desktop PC.
> Used alone, this generator passes all the Diehard Battery of Tests, > but > its simplicity makes it well-suited to serve as one of the three > components > of a KISS RNG, based on the Keep-It-Simple-Stupid principle, and the > idea, > supported by both theory and practice, that the combination of RNGs > based on > different mathematical models can be no worse---and is usually > better---than > any of the components.
> So here is a complete C version of what might be called a SUPER KISS > RNG, > combining, by addition mod 2^32, a Congruential RNG, a Xorshift RNG > and the super-long-period CMWC RNG: > */
> #include <stdio.h> > static unsigned long Q > [41790],indx=41790,carry=362436,xcng=1236789,xs=521288629;
> int refill( ) > { int i; unsigned long long t; > for(i=0;i<41790;i++) { t=7010176LL*Q[i]+carry; carry=(t>>32); Q[i]=~ > (t);} > indx=1; return (Q[0]); > }
> int main() > {unsigned long i,x; > for(i=0;i<41790;i++) Q[i]=CNG+XS; > for(i=0;i<1000000000;i++) x=KISS; > printf(" x=%d.\nDoes x=-872412446?\n",x);
> }
> /* > Running this program should produce 10^9 KISSes in some 7-15 seconds. > You are invited to cut, paste, compile and run for yourself, checking > to > see if the last value is as designated, (formatted as a signed integer > for > potential comparisons with systems using signed integers). > You may want to report or comment on implementations for other > languages.
> The arithmetic operations are suited for either signed or unsigned > integers. > Thus, with (64-bit)t=a*x+c, x=t%b in C or x=mod(t,b) in Fortran, and > c=c/b in either C or Fortran, but with ways to avoid integer > divisions, > and subsequent replacement of x by its base-b complement, ~x in C.
> With b=2^32 and p=54767*2^1337287+1, the SUPR part of this Super KISS > uses my CMWC method to produce, in reverse order, the base-b expansion > of k/p for some k determined by the values used to seed the Q array. > The period is the order of b for that prime p: > 54767*2^1337279, about 2^1337294 or 10^402566. > (It took a continuous run of 24+ days on an earlier PC to > establish that order. My thanks to the wizards behind PFGW > and to Phil Carmody for some suggested code.)
> Even the Q's all zero, should seeding be overlooked in main(), > will still produce a sequence of the required period, but will > put the user in a strange and exceedingly rare place in the entire > sequence. Users should choose a reasonable number of the 1337280 > random bits that a fully-seeded Q array requires.
> Using your own choices of merely 87 seed bits, 32 each for xcng,xs > and 23 for carry<7010176, then initializing the Q array with > for(i=0;i<41790;i++) Q[i]=CNG+XS; > should serve well for many applications, but others, such as in > Law or Gaming, where a minimum number of possible outcomes may be > required, might need more of the 1337280 seed bits for the Q array.
> As might applications in cryptography: With an unknown but fully- > seeded Q array, a particular string of, say, 41000 successive SUPR > values will appear at more than 2^20000 locations in the full > sequence, > making it virtually impossible to get the location of that particular > string in the full loop, and thus predict coming or earlier values, > even if able to undo the CNG+XS operations. > */
> /* > So I again invite you to cut, paste, compile and run the above C > program. > 1000 million KISSes should be generated, and the specified result > appear, > by the time you count slowly to fifteen. > (Without an optimizing compiler, you may have to count more slowly.) > */
> /* George Marsaglia */
/* Here is a C++ version. The C version is quite a bit faster because there are no function calls at all. Can any of you C++ gurus bump the speed without losing encapsulation? I get about 5 seconds for the C version and about 8 seconds for the C++ version.
-- d.corbit */
#include <iostream> /* For those mesmerized (or Mersenne-ized?) by a RNG with period 2^19937-1, I offer one here with period 54767*2^1337279---over 10^396564 times as long. It is one of my CMWC (Complimentary-Multiply-With-Carry) RNGs, and is suggested here as one of the components of a super-long-period KISS (Keep-It-Simple-Stupid) RNG.
With b=2^32 and a=7010176, and given a 32-bit x, and a 32-bit c, this generator produces a new x,c by forming 64-bit t=a*x+c then replacing: c=top 32 bits of t and x=(b-1)-(bottom 32 bits of t). In C: c=t>>32; x=~t;
For many years, CPUs have had machine instructions to form such a 64-bit t and extract the top and bottom halves, but unfortunately only recent Fortran versions have means to easily invoke them.
Ability to do those extractions leads to implementations that are simple and extremely fast---some 140 million per second on my desktop PC.
Used alone, this generator passes all the Diehard Battery of Tests, but its simplicity makes it well-suited to serve as one of the three components of a KISS RNG, based on the Keep-It-Simple-Stupid principle, and the idea, supported by both theory and practice, that the combination of RNGs based on different mathematical models can be no worse---and is usually better---than any of the components.
So here is a complete C version of what might be called a SUPER KISS RNG, combining, by addition mod 2^32, a Congruential RNG, a Xorshift RNG and the super-long-period CMWC RNG: */
class SuperKiss {
private: unsigned long Q[41790]; unsigned long indx; unsigned long carry; unsigned long xcng; unsigned long xs;
int refill () { int i; unsigned long long t; for (i = 0; i < 41790; i++) { t = 7010176LL * Q[i] + carry; carry = (t >> 32); Q[i] = ~(t); } indx = 1; return (Q[0]); }
int main () { unsigned long i int x; SuperKiss sk; for (i = 0; i < 1000000000; i++) x = sk.SKRand(); std::cout << " x = " << x << std::endl << "does Does x=-872412446?" << std::endl; return 0;
}
/* Running this program should produce 10^9 KISSes in some 7-15 seconds. You are invited to cut, paste, compile and run for yourself, checking to see if the last value is as designated, (formatted as a signed integer for potential comparisons with systems using signed integers). You may want to report or comment on implementations for other languages.
The arithmetic operations are suited for either signed or unsigned integers. Thus, with (64-bit)t=a*x+c, x=t%b in C or x=mod(t,b) in Fortran, and c=c/b in either C or Fortran, but with ways to avoid integer divisions, and subsequent replacement of x by its base-b complement, ~x in C.
With b=2^32 and p=54767*2^1337287+1, the SUPR part of this Super KISS uses my CMWC method to produce, in reverse order, the base-b expansion of k/p for some k determined by the values used to seed the Q array. The period is the order of b for that prime p: 54767*2^1337279, about 2^1337294 or 10^402566. (It took a continuous run of 24+ days on an earlier PC to establish that order. My thanks to the wizards behind PFGW and to Phil Carmody for some suggested code.)
Even the Q's all zero, should seeding be overlooked in main(), will still produce a sequence of the required period, but will put the user in a strange and exceedingly rare place in the entire sequence. Users should choose a reasonable number of the 1337280 random bits that a fully-seeded Q array requires.
Using your own choices of merely 87 seed bits, 32 each for xcng,xs and 23 for carry<7010176, then initializing the Q array with for(i=0;i<41790;i++) Q[i]=CNG+XS; should serve well for many applications, but others, such as in Law or Gaming, where a minimum number of possible outcomes may be required, might need more of the 1337280 seed bits for the Q array.
As might applications in cryptography: With an unknown but fully- seeded Q array, a particular string of, say, 41000 successive SUPR values will appear at more than 2^20000 locations in the full sequence, making it virtually impossible to get the location of that particular string in the full loop, and thus predict coming or earlier values, even
On Nov 3, 10:46 am, geo <gmarsag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> int refill( ) > { int i; unsigned long long t; > for(i=0;i<41790;i++) { t=7010176LL*Q[i]+carry; carry=(t>>32); Q[i]=~ > (t);} > indx=1; return (Q[0]); > }
Not to nitpick but your C code could use some work. First off, some indentation please? Second, returning a unsigned long long as "int" is not very portable.
Part of the good thing of PRNGs is that they're reproduceable. Ideally over different platforms. You should truncate the return value if you want it as "int" or change the return type. As it stands now this will produce different results on my x86-32 and 64 boxes for the same seed, which is a bad thing.
int main () { unsigned long i; int x=0; SuperKiss sk; for (i = 0; i < 1000000000; i++) x = sk.SKRand(); std::cout << " x = " << x << std::endl << "Does x=-872412446?" << std::endl; return 0;
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:46:27 -0800, George Marsaglia wrote: ... > For those mesmerized (or Mersenne-ized?) by a RNG with period 2^19937-1, > I offer one here with period 54767*2^1337279---over 10^396564 times as > long. It is one of my CMWC (Complimentary-Multiply-With-Carry) RNGs, and > is suggested here as one of the components of a super-long-period KISS > (Keep-It-Simple-Stupid) RNG. ... > static unsigned long Q[41790],indx=41790,carry=362436,xcng=1236789,xs=521288629; ... > {unsigned long i,x; ... > printf(" x=%d.\nDoes x=-872412446?\n",x); ... > Running this program should produce 10^9 KISSes in some 7-15 seconds. ... > So I again invite you to cut, paste, compile and run the above C > program. > 1000 million KISSes should be generated, and the specified result > appear [...]
I've snipped the program except for three lines that apparently must differ depending upon cpu word length. On my 64-bit Athlon X2 5200+ (1GHz) with gcc 4.1.2, and %d changed to %ld, the output (after 7.5 seconds) contains "x=2904265093743181565."; or, with instead long changed to int in two places, "x=-872412446." (after 7.3 seconds).
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:39:02 -0600, James Waldby wrote: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:46:27 -0800, George Marsaglia wrote: ... >> For those mesmerized (or Mersenne-ized?) by a RNG with period >> 2^19937-1, I offer one here with period 54767*2^1337279---over >> 10^396564 times as long. It is one of my CMWC >> (Complimentary-Multiply-With-Carry) RNGs, and is suggested here as one >> of the components of a super-long-period KISS (Keep-It-Simple-Stupid) >> RNG. > ... >> static unsigned long >> Q[41790],indx=41790,carry=362436,xcng=1236789,xs=521288629; > ... >> {unsigned long i,x; > ... >> printf(" x=%d.\nDoes x=-872412446?\n",x); > ... >> Running this program should produce 10^9 KISSes in some 7-15 seconds. > ... >> So I again invite you to cut, paste, compile and run the above C >> program. >> 1000 million KISSes should be generated, and the specified result >> appear [...]
> I've snipped the program except for three lines that apparently must > differ depending upon cpu word length. On my 64-bit Athlon X2 5200+ > (1GHz) with gcc 4.1.2, and %d changed to %ld, the output (after 7.5 > seconds) contains "x=2904265093743181565."; or, with instead long > changed to int in two places, "x=-872412446." (after 7.3 seconds).
Note, in hexadecimal those results are 284e05b71e20fefd and cc000ae2 respectively. Ie, the bit patterns of the low 32 bits are quite different.
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:46:27 -0800, George Marsaglia wrote: ... > > For those mesmerized (or Mersenne-ized?) by a RNG with period 2^19937-1, > > I offer one here with period 54767*2^1337279---over 10^396564 times as > > long. It is one of my CMWC (Complimentary-Multiply-With-Carry) RNGs, and > > is suggested here as one of the components of a super-long-period KISS > > (Keep-It-Simple-Stupid) RNG. > ... > > static unsigned long Q[41790],indx=41790,carry=362436,xcng=1236789,xs=521288629; > ... > > {unsigned long i,x; > ... > > printf(" x=%d.\nDoes x=-872412446?\n",x); > ... > > Running this program should produce 10^9 KISSes in some 7-15 seconds. > ... > > So I again invite you to cut, paste, compile and run the above C > > program. > > 1000 million KISSes should be generated, and the specified result > > appear [...]
> I've snipped the program except for three lines that apparently must > differ depending upon cpu word length. On my 64-bit Athlon X2 5200+ > (1GHz) with gcc 4.1.2, and %d changed to %ld, the output (after 7.5 > seconds) contains "x=2904265093743181565."; or, with instead long > changed to int in two places, "x=-872412446." (after 7.3 seconds).
I get the same results on: 64 bit Windows using the 64 bit MS compiler 64 bit Windows using the 32 bit MS compiler 64 bit Windows using the 64 bit Mingw GCC compiler 64 bit OpenVMS (Itanium) using HP CXX 64 bit OpenVMS (Alpha) using HP CXX 32 bit OpenVMS (VAX) using HP CXX (Had to remove the std:: because of old compiler, expect a very long wait) Solaris 5.9 is interesting because it is big-endian, in contrast with those previously mentioned: /export/home/dcorbit> uname -a SunOS solaris9 5.9 Generic_118558-11 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V210 /export/home/dcorbit> gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. /export/home/dcorbit> ./a.out x = -872412446 Does x=-872412446? /export/home/dcorbit>
In article <4fd3c8bf-e45b-4359-ac50-f54298b14770 @d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, t...@iahu.ca says...
> On Nov 3, 10:46 am, geo <gmarsag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > int refill( ) > > { int i; unsigned long long t; > > for(i=0;i<41790;i++) { t=7010176LL*Q[i]+carry; carry=(t>>32); Q[i]=~ > > (t);} > > indx=1; return (Q[0]); > > }
> Not to nitpick but your C code could use some work. First off, some > indentation please? Second, returning a unsigned long long as "int" > is not very portable.
The O.P. is George Marsaglia. If there were a Mt. Rushmore for computer science, Donald Knuth would be George Washington's bust, but Marsaglia would be up there somewhere too. If it were random numbers, then Mr. Marsaglia is front and center.
IMO-YMMV
> Part of the good thing of PRNGs is that they're reproduceable. > Ideally over different platforms. You should truncate the return > value if you want it as "int" or change the return type. As it stands > now this will produce different results on my x86-32 and 64 boxes for > the same seed, which is a bad thing.
Did you actually try it? What compilers were you using? I get the same result regardless of compiler, hardware and OS.
> int refill( ) > { int i; unsigned long long t; > for(i=0;i<41790;i++) { t=7010176LL*Q[i]+carry; carry=(t>>32); Q[i]=~ > (t);} > indx=1; return (Q[0]); > }
Not to nitpick but your C code could use some work. First off, some indentation please? Second, returning a unsigned long long as "int" is not very portable.
<where is written that he return long long int like int?? <Q is "static unsigned long Q[41790]" <he return only "unsigned long" like "int" <the error could be here "Q[i]=~(t)" because in the left side is long <the other side is long long
Part of the good thing of PRNGs is that they're reproduceable. Ideally over different platforms. You should truncate the return value if you want it as "int" or change the return type. As it stands now this will produce different results on my x86-32 and 64 boxes for the same seed, which is a bad thing.
On an x86-64 machine using GCC version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4), both the C code and C++ code fail for me. I get: x=505478909. Does x=-872412446?
Changing the unsigned long's to unsigned int's fixed the problem. And it does matter: before the change, the generator failed a variety of tests (really odd assortment, though: parking lot, 2dsphere, 3dsphere, squeeze, and sums).
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:18:14 -0800, David wrote: > On an x86-64 machine using GCC version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4), > both the C code and C++ code fail for me. I get: > x=505478909. > Does x=-872412446?
That result is like what I mentioned in my posts yesterday; 505478909. == 0x1e20fefd, which is the low 32 bits of 2904265093743181565. == 0x284e05b71e20fefd .
> Changing the unsigned long's to unsigned int's fixed the problem. And it > does matter: before the change, the generator failed a variety of tests > (really odd assortment, though: parking lot, 2dsphere, 3dsphere, > squeeze, and sums).
On Nov 4, 9:18 am, David <david.astgt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On an x86-64 machine using GCC version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4), > both the C code and C++ code fail for me. > I get: > x=505478909. > Does x=-872412446?
> Changing the unsigned long's to unsigned int's fixed the problem. > And it does matter: before the change, the generator failed a variety > of tests (really odd assortment, though: parking lot, 2dsphere, > 3dsphere, squeeze, and sums).
OK, makes sense. The RNG must assume 32 bit longs.
On Nov 4, 1:26 pm, user923005 <dcor...@connx.com> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 9:18 am, David <david.astgt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On an x86-64 machine using GCC version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4), > > both the C code and C++ code fail for me. > > I get: > > x=505478909. > > Does x=-872412446?
> > Changing the unsigned long's to unsigned int's fixed the problem. > > And it does matter: before the change, the generator failed a variety > > of tests (really odd assortment, though: parking lot, 2dsphere, > > 3dsphere, squeeze, and sums).
> OK, makes sense. The RNG must assume 32 bit longs.
Modified C++ code:
#include <iostream>
class SuperKiss {
private: unsigned int Q[41790]; unsigned int indx; unsigned int carry; unsigned int xcng; unsigned int xs;
int refill () { int i; unsigned long long t; for (i = 0; i < 41790; i++) { t = 7010176LL * Q[i] + carry; carry = (t >> 32); Q[i] =(unsigned int) ~(t); } indx = 1; return (Q[0]); }
int main () { unsigned int i; int x=0; SuperKiss sk; for (i = 0; i < 1000000000; i++) x = sk.SKRand(); std::cout << " x = " << x << std::endl << "Does x=-872412446?" << std::endl; return 0;
}
/* Possible output: x = -872412446 Does x=-872412446? */