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Joshua Cranmer  
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(2 users)  More options Sep 7 2008, 7:27 am
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From: Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeo...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:27:06 -0400
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:27 am
Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines

Rotwang wrote:
> On 6 Sep, 22:09, JSH <jst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You have a new credibility problem with your assertions about perfect
>> squares and the Quadratic Diophantine Theorem.

> Heh. You're really in no position to be attacking anybody's
> credibility. Did you notice I answered your challenge in the
> "Quadratic Diophantine Theorem" thread?

Naturally, JSH pounces on us for making typographical errors, even after
we've fixed them. I made a slight error--the result still represented a
valid counterexample to his algorithm, just not quite the counterexample
I initially was describing--and JSH howled on that until I redid all the
math correctly again, despite it still showing his algorithm to be
incorrect.

And, of course, the moment we take the same attitude to his
typographical errors, he pounces on us for pouncing on him. A bit of a
double-standard here.

>> So readers might think that maybe you are lying to try and hide the
>> result.

> Huh? In case you haven't noticed, I've said several times that the
> result is correct. In fact as far as I've seen I'm the only person to
> have publicly agreed with you on this one. Face it: I'm the closest
> thing you've got to that invisible grandstand right now. And you show
> your gratitude by suggesting I'm a liar. Don't mention it.

Well, obviously JSH is the one true mathematician, and the rest of us
are just malevolent beings out to quash his noble, awe-inspiring
theorems. Therefore any apparent evidence to the contrary is just a trick.

Or something like that. If there's one thing JSH excels at, it's
alienating people who would try to help him. This trait still confounds me.

>> I've often maintained that some posters deliberately lie about what is
>> mathematically correct and make political posts designed to obscure
>> results.

Right. Probably half your initial thread postings (over time) only
mention your findings and provide no explanation as to what those
findings are. Deeper down in threads, the ratio is unbelievably skewed
in favor of little mention of findings and lots of attack/counterattack
drivel. No need to have others obscure your results, then.

And naturally, any attempt to illicit more information on any of your
work must be accompanied by strenuous effort on the part of the
enquirer. By the way, my requests for information on your factoring
method still stand, the intervening year notwithstanding.


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Jens Stueckelberger  
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From: Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org>
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 23:42:53 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:42 am
Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines

        Thanks for providing support to my conjecture.

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JSH  
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From: JSH <jst...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:49:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:49 am
Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines
On Sep 6, 4:42 pm, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org>
wrote:

I have a result on a general Diophantine Equation.

Sure you can dismiss as trivial one result that a few of you in
hindsight realized how to derive, but I have a theorem with which I
can keep generating results and also, laugh as I do Google searches on
Pell's Equation and look for MY solution, which some of you try to
dismiss.

It allows you to find solutions for Pell's Equation.

Whether or not its easily derived in hindsight is irrelevant to the
issue of newness.

Hindsight can last you for a while.  But I can simply shift until I
force posters against a wall where they can't dodge without just lying
again.

Just like they've done before.

James Harris


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Jesse F. Hughes  
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From: "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@phiwumbda.org>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:19:07 -0400
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 10:19 am
Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines

Rotwang <sg...@hotmail.co.uk> writes:
> In fact as far as I've seen I'm the only person to have publicly
> agreed with you on this one[...] And you show your gratitude by
> suggesting I'm a liar.

You must admit that's pretty good evidence.  Given his track record,
what're the chances you're telling the truth when you say he's right?

--
Jesse F. Hughes

"Would you please stop talking and start talking?"
   -- Vincent Price as the Saint


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Jesse F. Hughes  
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From: "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@phiwumbda.org>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:27:39 -0400
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 10:27 am
Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines

Gib Bogle <g.bo...@auckland.no.spam.ac.nz> writes:
> Jesse F. Hughes wrote:

>> But who could lie about Diophantine equations?  I'm with you on this,
>> just like I've been with you every time before.  The math wars are
>> finally and definitely over, just like before.

> Like the war in Iraq?

Hope JSH didn't throw out his personal "Mission Accomplished" banner.

--
"You are beneath contempt because you betray mathematics itself, and
spit upon the truth, spit upon decency, and spit upon the intelligence
of the world.  You betrayed the world, and now it's time for the world
to notice." -- James S. Harris awaits Justice for crimes against Math.


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spudnik  
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From: spudnik <Space...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 11:08 am
Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines
oh, the lines;
as soon as I can make heads or tails (or even edges)
out of your syntax!

maybe, you should go back to "line-numbers,"
just for our benefit, the enormous Pea-net Gallery
(query: is that a reference to G.W.Carver?)

> > Can't you read between the lines?

thus:
oh, Sagan did some numbertheory?...  well,
that'll humanize him a bit;
the real Doctor Stranglelove had his own program on PBS!

> That Ramanujan had excellent intuition, but he wasn't always correct.

thus:
yes, I'd killfile him if I were better equipt;
this is a brief detour from avoiding "HSJ: peristalsis occurreth"
threads
of my own volition, and thank YOU, HSJ, for the label.

so, you really didn't bother with the resultage, either, but
"student-level" seems to be an over-estimate;
if a student actually was interested in numbertheory,
all of this would ne'er have existed.  oh, but,
he's no mere student, he's the Queen of Mathematics, himself ... and,
what does that make AP?

now, prove Fermat's Little Theorem, some one!...  some one,
herinat, prove biquadratic reciprocity, and quintic!...  I mean,
it would not really surprize me, if he actually did prove a new
result.  but,
big magnanimous if/then, he'd be able to explain it in so many words,
instead
of this unending riffraff of hiphop pseudomathspeak and
"social analysis" -- feh, the original soft science, gone all squishy:
Foucault/Derrida/Sokal/HSJ/WeAreDevo, could just be a somewhat
elaborate hoax;
it's all relative to the amount of time, one gives attention to it.  I
mean,
how many online math journals have risen & fallen,
with the explcit purpose of publishing his **** for the sake
of online mental patients?...  "there, but for the grace of ... NO --
I may be kwite krazee but I'm not that stupid!"

all problems are actually, penintimately wordproblemmas,
using them which are more powerful than their anagram....  whereas,
maybe HSJ has some minor impairment or, like Justice Thomas,
a large overlay of the Gullah language to work-through,
AP is strictly a hardcore, unrepentant student of "E-prime,"
the fake language, more foolish than Esperanto, or just a joke;
that is to say, pidgen (sp.?).

I am reminded of zee froglegs, because I had finally realized that a)
the metaphor applies to me & most Americans, and that b)
it may actually be true, since a frog has no experience
of temperatures any where near boiling, all reptilean somatic, except
at Yellowstone!

> student-level study
>   with slow but noticeable progress over the years

thus:
Cheeny has just launched a diversion from his 3rdBritishInvasionSudan
plan,
involving contretemps with Mother Russia and Baby Georgia;
where is the clock on the God-am Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists,
now -- a twelveth past twenty-four hundred hours?...  I just saw
the current issue at the bokstore, and the feature of the issue
is bemoaning nuclear power, while the whole planet escapes
from our '50s lightwater unfailsafe paradigm, not to mention
our late-'50s program of space (at least, it was not unmanned).

so, that paper timepiece is going to be at the whim
of the two, new candidates for Imperial Vice P., or
simply 4mo'year of Trickier Dick, whether one knows it or knot:
the Harry Potter PS of American History from Rhodes Scholarship
(Oxford U. Press), insists upon an explicit doctirne of American
Imperialism
in the vain of Teddy Roosevelt.  this was reprezented in the NYTimes
of yesterday, letter to editro style, bemoaning Dick's policies,
without any acknowledgemnt that it is all legal, all written
by sub rosa lawyers in exec.orders (or where ever), and
virtual VP Joe's call for US military intervention in Durfar;
Dick can now abandon that policy to the Prendergast Machine,
Cold War Trumanism etc. ad vomitorium, R&orD!

--George Soros is your WWWenema!
http://wlym.com


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Michael Press  
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From: Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:50:58 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 11:50 am
Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines
In article
<cfd44a9b-e135-4a4d-ae81-99fb0d26f...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

 JSH <jst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 5, 6:12 pm, "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@phiwumbda.org> wrote:
> > JSH <jst...@gmail.com> writes:
> > > The "math wars" as I've called them, are, finally, really this time,
> > > over.

> > Again.

> And you too?  So you don't know anything about Diophantine equations
> either?

I will believe you when you solve the quadratic Diophantine equation

xx + yy = zz

> Go do some research.  See if a theorem like mine has ever been found
> before.

> Never been done.

> Modern mathematicians cannot even begin to start to find an existence
> proof for the general equation I handled today.

> They wouldn't know where to begin.

> I used a variant on the technique I used to prove Fermat's Last
> Theorem.

> Isn't it ironic, don't you think?

--
Michael Press

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Michael Press  
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From: Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:57:03 -0700
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Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines
In article
<8ec68cf2-3165-42b2-9a9c-072241adf...@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

Is ... is ... is it ... the _Hammer_?

--
Michael Press


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Denis Feldmann  
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From: Denis Feldmann <denis.feldmann.sanss...@neuf.fr>
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:56:20 +0200
Local: Sun, Sep 7 2008 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines
JSH a écrit :

  Better written as D(x+y)^2+1-D is a square, which translate as
"(D+1)x^2+2Dxy -D is a square" (easier to check that way) Thus said, it
looks correct...


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José Carlos Santos  
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From: José Carlos Santos <jcsan...@fc.up.pt>
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:02:42 +0100
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Subject: Re: JSH: Nifty little result on quadratic diophantines
On 06-09-2008 16:20, JSH wrote:

>>> The "math wars" as I've called them, are, finally, really this time,
>>> over.
>> Oh! So *now* they are _really_ over. So when you wrote, back in 2006,
>> that they were over:

>> http://mathforum.org/kb/plaintext.jspa?messageID=5298063

>> you were wrong? Who would have guessed that?!

> Yup, I was definitely wrong.  That's why I said, finally, really this
> time, over.

Glad to know that. When will the rest of the world (I mean, anyone
besides you) become aware of that?

Best regards,

Jose Carlos Santos


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