> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:59:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Michael wrote:
> >> On Nov 4, 3:18 pm, Michael <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ...
> >> > > The usenet convention is to bottom post.
> >> > > And my house is paid for. And US grown food is priced in US dollars, > >> > > and is absurdly cheap.
> >> > Yep... Costco sells All-Purpose Flour for $0.26 per pound.
> >> My mistake, $0.24/lb. Tax exempt.
> >> > > > There's hardly any European products that most > >> > > Americans want, and fewer that we need.
> >> > Budweiser? :D
> >> Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear... where would we be > >> without Ikea, Swiss chocolate and German beer?
> > I've never even seen an Ikea store, but from the stupid commercails > >they run I wouldn't shop there.
> We went to the one in Atlanta in September. It sure was interesting > to see what junk people were buying. I did buy a 1-1/2" Beech butcher > block slab for $100. That was a good deal but the furniture and > cabinets are all crap.
The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their customers look like Dimbulb.
> > I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.
> That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and > fleecing taxpayers, of course).
I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.
John Larkin wrote: > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:22:10 -0800 (PST), Michael <mrdarr...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> On Nov 4, 7:03 pm, John Larkin
>> ...
>>>> My mistake, $0.24/lb. Tax exempt. >>> An hour of work at minimum wage can buy more potatoes than most people >>> would care to carry. You can make a nice meal from pasta, peas, and >>> maybe a dab of butter and grated parmesan for around 25 cents a >>> serving. You can make a lot of very tasty chicken quesadillas for not >>> much money.
>> Yep, potatoes are around $2 for 10 lbs over here (in Sacramento).
>> Pasta is just flour and eggs, right?
> Most of the Italian stuff is flour and water. Most is made from > US-grown hard winter wheat. We grow it, ship it to Italy, they add > water, they remove the water, and then they sell it back to us.
>>>>>>> There's hardly any European products that most >>>>>> Americans want, and fewer that we need. >>>>> Budweiser? :D >>> I just saw a billboard for Bud Light Wheat Beer. Strange.
>> Wheat beers are good.
> Widmer is excellent, especially draft. I don't like the Pyramid.
> I'll have to try the Bud Light. How do they make wheat beer from rice?
>>>> Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear... where would we be >>>> without Ikea, Swiss chocolate and German beer? >>> What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport) >>> chocolate is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't >>> grow cocoa beans in Switzerland or in Germany.
>>> We used to have superb chocolate here in San Francisco, Joseph >>> Schmidt. Hershey's bought the operation just to shut it down. Bastards >>> and their gritty sour-milk excuse for chocolate!
>>> BOYCOTT HERSHEYS
>>> It's crap anyhow.
>>> John
>> Which Swiss chocolate do you recommend? Lindt?
> That's good. Lindor too... maybe the same folks?
>> What about Ghirardelli?
> Mostly mediocre. Their caramel filled darks are good.
I'm partial to their peppermint bark. Only available here around Christmas though. Something to look forward to next month :-)
>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:59:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >> <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >Michael wrote:
>> >> On Nov 4, 3:18 pm, Michael <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> ...
>> >> > > The usenet convention is to bottom post.
>> >> > > And my house is paid for. And US grown food is priced in US dollars, >> >> > > and is absurdly cheap.
>> >> > Yep... Costco sells All-Purpose Flour for $0.26 per pound.
>> >> My mistake, $0.24/lb. Tax exempt.
>> >> > > > There's hardly any European products that most >> >> > > Americans want, and fewer that we need.
>> >> > Budweiser? :D
>> >> Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear... where would we be >> >> without Ikea, Swiss chocolate and German beer?
>> > I've never even seen an Ikea store, but from the stupid commercails >> >they run I wouldn't shop there.
>> We went to the one in Atlanta in September. It sure was interesting >> to see what junk people were buying. I did buy a 1-1/2" Beech butcher >> block slab for $100. That was a good deal but the furniture and >> cabinets are all crap.
> The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their >customers look like Dimbulb.
Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...
>> > I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.
>> That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and >> fleecing taxpayers, of course).
> I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.
So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.
> > The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their > >customers look like Dimbulb.
> Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly > buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...
> >> > I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.
> >> That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and > >> fleecing taxpayers, of course).
> > I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.
> So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I > should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.
There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35 minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.
<excretatau...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:03:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
>> What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport) chocolate >> is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't grow cocoa >> beans in Switzerland or in Germany.
>Swiss and German, (you missed out Belgian, that's good, too) chocolate is >made using 100% cocoa butter. It's also subjected to a much longer mixing >process that makes it smoother.
>Hershey & Cadbury take the cocoa butter out and sell it to cosmetics >manufacturers, then replace it using any old vegetable fat.
So why can't Americans or Brits do that stuff too?
Joseph Schmidt did in San Francisco. Hershey bought his business and shut it down, presumably because they don't want Americans to know what real chocolate tastes like.
John Larkin wrote: > On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:31:46 -0800, Fred Abse > <excretatau...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:03:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
>>>What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport) chocolate >>>is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't grow cocoa >>>beans in Switzerland or in Germany.
>>Swiss and German, (you missed out Belgian, that's good, too) chocolate is >>made using 100% cocoa butter. It's also subjected to a much longer mixing >>process that makes it smoother.
>>Hershey & Cadbury take the cocoa butter out and sell it to cosmetics >>manufacturers, then replace it using any old vegetable fat.
> So why can't Americans or Brits do that stuff too?
> Joseph Schmidt did in San Francisco. Hershey bought his business and > shut it down, presumably because they don't want Americans to know > what real chocolate tastes like.
> Dove tastes like chocolate-flavored axle grease.
> John
You're not looking at the big picture here!
Remove the cocoa butter to replace it with fatty oils, people get fat and ugly.. Which increases the market for more facial creams and the like, made from the cocoa butter!.
I would say, Hershey and Cadbury are mighty smart business organizers!
I've also heard of similar things done with main ingredients for baking goods of various products.
I used to be a chocolate lover to the extreme, I still em how ever, it seems that the only chocolate I can stand in the past few years, is the imported brands. Now I know why!
And don't let us forget the one loved by me, Cream Horns, I no longer even look at them in the stores now. Bakery is the only place to get a real one and it must be in a cooler. Most of the store brands are nothing but whipped up lard and sugar! No dairy cream at all in it. Never used to be that way! And they wonder why people are getting so fat so easily in the states.
>> > The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their >> >customers look like Dimbulb.
>> Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly >> buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...
>> >> > I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.
>> >> That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and >> >> fleecing taxpayers, of course).
>> > I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.
>> So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I >> should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.
> There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35 >minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole >isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock >up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" ><mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>krw wrote:
>>>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>> > The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their >>> >customers look like Dimbulb.
>>> Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly >>> buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...
>>> >> > I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.
>>> >> That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and >>> >> fleecing taxpayers, of course).
>>> > I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.
>>> So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I >>> should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.
>> There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35 >>minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole >>isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock >>up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.
Snowflake sugar-free packages warn about the "laxative effect" if too much is consumed. I don't particularly like the stuff but it's all SWMBO can have.
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:03:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
> > What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport) chocolate > > is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't grow cocoa > > beans in Switzerland or in Germany.
> Swiss and German, (you missed out Belgian, that's good, too) chocolate is > made using 100% cocoa butter. It's also subjected to a much longer mixing > process that makes it smoother.
> Hershey & Cadbury take the cocoa butter out and sell it to cosmetics > manufacturers, then replace it using any old vegetable fat.
I was in a store a few days ago that had fancy 1 pound boxes of Belgian chocolate for $1.44. They should send it back.
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:20 -0800, John Larkin > <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > ><mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>krw wrote:
> >>>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >>> > The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their > >>> >customers look like Dimbulb.
> >>> Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly > >>> buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...
> >>> >> > I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.
> >>> >> That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and > >>> >> fleecing taxpayers, of course).
> >>> > I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.
> >>> So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I > >>> should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.
> >> There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35 > >>minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole > >>isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock > >>up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.
> Snowflake sugar-free packages warn about the "laxative effect" if too > much is consumed. I don't particularly like the stuff but it's all > SWMBO can have.
Publix Supermarkets around here carry apple & cherry 'no sugar added' pies. I don't know if you can find anything like that where you live. I've had two of the apple pies this year. :)
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >krw wrote:
> >>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >> > The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their > >> >customers look like Dimbulb.
> >> Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly > >> buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...
> >> >> > I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.
> >> >> That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and > >> >> fleecing taxpayers, of course).
> >> > I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.
> >> So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I > >> should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.
> > There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35 > >minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole > >isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock > >up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.
The artificial sweeteners don't bother me as much as the diabetic medicine. Metformin should be classed as a 'Weapon of Ass Destruction". "May cause mild diarrhea" my ass! :(
>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:20 -0800, John Larkin >> <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >> ><mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>krw wrote:
>> >>>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>> >>> > The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their >> >>> >customers look like Dimbulb.
>> >>> Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly >> >>> buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...
>> >>> >> > I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.
>> >>> >> That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and >> >>> >> fleecing taxpayers, of course).
>> >>> > I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.
>> >>> So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I >> >>> should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.
>> >> There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35 >> >>minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole >> >>isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock >> >>up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.
>> Snowflake sugar-free packages warn about the "laxative effect" if too >> much is consumed. I don't particularly like the stuff but it's all >> SWMBO can have.
> Publix Supermarkets around here carry apple & cherry 'no sugar added' >pies. I don't know if you can find anything like that where you live. >I've had two of the apple pies this year. :)
There aren't any Publix here, yet (two are supposed to open next year). Do remember that "no sugar added" <> no sugar and "sugar free"
> > Publix Supermarkets around here carry apple & cherry 'no sugar added' > >pies. I don't know if you can find anything like that where you live. > >I've had two of the apple pies this year. :)
> There aren't any Publix here, yet (two are supposed to open next > year). Do remember that "no sugar added" <> no sugar and "sugar free" > >> 0 calories.
I know that. The sugar is from the apples or cherries. As long as you don't eat the whole pie in a meal or two, it won't hurt you.
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