> Good morning! No more such episodes, thank goodness.
I'm glad.
>My doctor at the time told me if I felt one coming on to stretch out on the >bed with my head hanging over backward and move the head from side to side.
You had a better doctor than my old doctor, who let me suffer with this thing for several years.
I later
> remembered three head bumps I had forgotten . Two were when the washing > machine lid dropped on my head and the other when I stumbled over TuTu's > scratching post and hit my head on the wall.
Yes I was in a couple of mishaps that might be responsible for my problem too.
Many years ago () my
> daughter-in-law had Menier's (sp?) and they removed the labyrinth of her > ear as there was no other way to cure her. S0 she is deaf in that ear. > She had a new baby and was terribly afraid of falling with him.
Wow, that's a good mom.
> TuTu is rejecting Fancy Feast again -- very unusual. She loves the Ocean > whitefish and chicken with tuna, but not this new batch.
Gracie is back in love with Salmon Feast after years of eating nothing but Beef. :) Little monsters they are.
> Bringing the conversation back down to earth...A suggestion to seek a > second opinion is actually wise advice. We are not suggesting that you go > "vet searching" and seek opinion after opinion. But, just like with > humans, it is good practice to get a second opinion when the first vet > seems to be having difficulty. It is possible that the second vet will > also diagnose inner ear infection, but it is *also* possible that the > second vet will find something that was originally overlooked. This does > not necessarily mean that your current vet did not do a good job. None of > us are perfect, and there are numerous instances when even a small change > in protocol can locate new information. And you are thinking about the > ultimate, final decision--killing your cat. I really cannot understand > doing that without at least seeking a second opinion, and especially for > something that is usually as treatable as inner ear infection. (Yes, I > saw your reference to bone damage. That is still another reason to take > this further and not simply accept one vet's opinion before making that > final, irreparable decision for a young cat.)
OK, first, she's improved dramatically in the past 2 days. :-))) She's using the litter pan again and is much more active. She's eating well on her own and drinking warmed milk. She has no milk allergy. She can walk in a straight line but appears to be hearing impaired. That may improve in time. She isn't a young cat. We don't know her age. Looking at her teeth, and I know that can be deceiving, I would, from past experience, say she was around 5 yrs old. She was dumped off by my neighbor's house back in June or July some time.
Your advice about a second opinion is good advice, if one can afford it. If she crashes again I'll take her to the only other Animal clinic in town. It's very expensive there and most of the people I know no longer go there.
>> "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote
>>> Bringing the conversation back down to earth...A suggestion to seek a >>> second opinion is actually wise advice. We are not suggesting that you >>> go "vet searching" and seek opinion after opinion. But, just like with >>> humans, it is good practice to get a second opinion when the first vet >>> seems to be having difficulty. It is possible that the second vet will >>> also diagnose inner ear infection, but it is *also* possible that the >>> second vet will find something that was originally overlooked. This >>> does not necessarily mean that your current vet did not do a good job. >>> None of us are perfect, and there are numerous instances when even a >>> small change in protocol can locate new information. And you are >>> thinking about the ultimate, final decision--killing your cat. I really >>> cannot understand doing that without at least seeking a second opinion, >>> and especially for something that is usually as treatable as inner ear >>> infection.
>> I know I react emotionally and in ways some people find, err, offensive, >> but there it is. I find it offensive that anyone would consider >> euthanizing when there are still paths to pursue and they are not even >> that expensive. To me it is common sense and a normal heart to do so. >> Anything else pisses me off. Thanks for being a calm voice, MaryL. I am >> sure I will not change, so I kill file to try to keep the flames to a >> minimum. I actually don't enjoy getting upset at this kind of thing, or >> anything, in fact. I have a feeling this cat is a goner, for the very >> reason that it has suffered for this long without Kelly taking it to >> another vet. That she could just sit there. FFS. Okay, time to wrap it >> up.
> Yes, I guess it's time to wrap it up simply because I fear that you are > correct. I can't imagine digging my heels in an absolutely refusing to > seek a second opinion simply based on the determination that "it's easy to > diagnose" inner ear infection and therefore supposedly could not be > mistaken.
Have you ever considered a person's financial situation? Not everyone has the same disposable income as you do. I'm getting the impression the people on this Group are financially well off to spend freely on stray cats. Don't judge anyone until you walk in their shoes and I don't say that in a sarcastic way. :-)
She's doing much better the past 2 days.
>Ironically, it would not cost any more for a second opinion.......
See what I mean? :-) The other clinic in our town is so expensive not one person I know still takes their animals there. Another $100+ for tests, exam etc may be pocket change for you and your friends. It's a lot of money to seniors on SS.
> Suddenly, without warning, Kelly Greene exclaimed (10/25/2009 12:53 AM):
>> I don't need another vet to disgnose her. We know what she has.
> The point is, your current vet may have misdiagnosed her. She might have > something else completely different, which is why the treatment isn't > working. She may have something *in addition* to the inner ear infection, > or something caused by it, which is treated differently.
Yes, that's a possibility. A second vet may or may not find anything other than the ear infection. She has started to respond and is doing much better yesterday and today.
> I've never, ever heard of a cat being euthanized for having an inner ear > infection, even a severe one.
Of course she or any animal wouldn't *need* to be euthanized if the owner didn't mind watching them suffer when treatment didn't work or there was no treatment available. We personally can't watch an animal suffer if there is little or no hope of recovery. It was obvious she was in real pain for awhile. Yesterday and and today she shows no signs of pain. She'll be on the meds for 2 more days.
> Cybercat might not be the most diplomatic of us here, but in this she is > right,
She may be right but looses credibility when she starts using profanity, changing the meaning of what someone says and assumes she knows what they're thinking. She also doesn't know what financial situation the poster is in. Right now I have some medical bills of my own that must be paid. We didn't plan to get a cat this soon.
you really should see another vet before making a final decision
> on your cat. I would - if I didn't I would carry the guilt the rest of my > life, that maybe if I'd taken that extra step, the new vet might have > found something new, or have found the real cause and saved my cat's life.
Actually this isn't "my cat" as such. She was tossed out (of a car?) by the neighbor's house and the neighbor was feeding her, then moved away. When she wandered over here, she was already sick. I could have called the shelter and she would have had ZERO chance to live. They don't treat the sick there when they can't even find homes for the healthy. :*(
> If this were your child, would you hesitate to see another doctor if the > first wasn't fixing the problem, and your child was suffering?
My child, yes. I always had affordable Health Ins that covered them. I have no Ins to cover pets or strays people dump out here in the countryside.
Had I had no Ins? I would have taken them to the low-cost children's Clinic in the city. We have no such thing here for pets and strays. People have to either borrow from someone, or get some kind of loan to pay vet bills. Going into debt for a stray, age and history unknown, is not something most people would be willing to do.
> Thank you for your support. This morning we awoke to find her walking > around the the dining room. She was able to walk in a straight line and > this > was before her Pred. She still tends to go to the left. We don't know if > this improvement will last as she's rallied before only to crash again. > She > ate very well last night and today again. :-) She had three full meals of > FancyFeast mixed with milk and warmed. She can get into the 2" deep old > baking dish we turned into a litter pan. She doesn't seem to be in much if > any pain today. She was purring and seeking constant attention we gave > her. > I only hope it lasts. > --
Me too. Thanks for the update. Please let us know how things progress, good or bad. It's heartening to see the good signs!
FirstHit
~ ~ ~ =^..^=
She's even doing better today. She was up walking around and ate real well again. She seems to have trouble hearing but is not deaf. She replies when I talk to her but when I call her she goes in the wrong direction tilting her head, looking around. She can hear me but doesn't seem to know where, what direction my voice is coming from. This may improve. I'm considering taking her to the other clinic in town if she starts going downhill again but that place is very expensive and there's no guarantee they'd do any better than the 1st place. As one friend said, "The Dr. (old vet) retired and the inmates (young kids out of vet school) are running the asylum." Apparently people pay for the good reputation of the old vet, the fancy clinic trimmings, the location etc.
> Oh, good news. If she is eating and gaining weight, that's always > good.
She is eating 3 and 4 times a day now, and even used her 5" litter pan. :-) She's doing very well today. We have to be out of town for the weekend and are taking her with us.
I am sorry to hear of your kitty's problems. One of my cats had a recurring middle ear infection. It would clear up with antibiotics then come back. An MRI showed that she had a growth in her middle ear that was blocking the "gunk" inside. She had a series of surgeries with a laser to remove this growth. If it hadn't solved the problem, the vet was recommending that her entire middle/inner ear be removed. It sounds radical, but the results are usually good. She would have been deaf in that ear, but I'm not sure she could hear with that ear anymore. I asked about dizziness and he said that removing the inner ear got rid of the dizziness. It seems the dizziness is caused by incorrect signals from the inner ear mechanism. Get rid of the whole mechanism and no more signals. Fortunately we were able to get rid of the infection with the surgeries, and so didn't have to do the more radical surgery. She did lose her hearing though.
=^..^= Wow, that sounds awful. :*( From what the vet said and what I've read online, reoccurrences are not uncommon. I hope that's not the case with Lucky.
I hope your kitty keeps improving. Just in case, keep the surgery in mind and talk with your vet about it if she continues to be so dizzy. That's no way to live.
=^..^= I know. It has to be awful to be dizzy and off kilter 24/7. She hasn't been dizzy for the past few days but I'm sure she's deaf in one ear. I can see her confusion when I call her or she hears noise. I wish we knew her history or how old she is. We really know nothing about her other than the neighbor who was feeding her all summer moved away. We've become very attached to her and hope we can afford to give her the care she needs to survive. I know if she went to the shelter where most "dump-offs" end up, they'd put her down as no one would adopt her. They don't even put the sick ones up for adoption. It's so cruel for people to drive their unwanted pets into the countryside and dump them on us out here. What makes them think all country people want or need their unwanted pets? Their responsibility becomes our responsibility and we have to call Rabies Control to come get their pets. I hope those who are thinking of it read this message and NOT dump their pets on us country people. 99% of them end up at the shelter anyway or are shot by farmers. This cat was very LUCKY we opened our door..........
> The evaluation cost $55.00 (several years ago). I thought that was > remarkably low for a specialist (feline ophthalmologist) at a veterinary > teaching hospital, using specialized equipment. Duffy is blind but gets > around so well that I wanted an evaluation to see if he might have slight > vision and whether there was anything I could do to preserve (or even > increase) it. As it turns out, he is totally blind, but I feel better > about having the examination to verify that. His own veterinarian was > correct, and neither he nor I considered it any sort of an insult to > consult a specialist for a second opinion. Duffy's condition was > described as "anterior cleavage syndrome." His eyes are much smaller than > normal. Since the eyes did not grow correctly, the eyelids also did not > grow. It seems that the eyelids grow to accommodate the eye. I was shown > a model of a cat's eye. There should be space between the iris and the > cornea, but there is no space in Duffy's eyes; the two components adhered > together. This probably happened in utero, and possibly was caused by > infection in the mother. However, Duffy does not have any infection; and > this was not caused by herpes (in Duffy) or anything similar.
> You can see pictures of Duffy and Holly by going to the links under my > signature. Duffy is truly a remarkable little guy--no one told him he is > supposed to be "handicapped," so he just goes right ahead and does > everything any other cat can do.
> MaryL
Thank you for that information. I think Lucky will be deaf in one ear. Her left ear was as bad as an inner ear infection can be they said. I know she'll learn to compensate in time if her hearing doesn't improve. She'll be safe in the house with us. She shows no interest in trying to get outside. We're sure she was someone's indoor housecat until they decided to get rid of her. Her wounds from being attacked by the other neighbor's cat have healed nicely.
> When I had an inner ear infection, I couldn't even do that. It was very > weird, I completely lost touch with gravity - had no sense of up or down > at all. Had to live on the couch for the duration, because my bedroom was > upstairs. Even the walk to the bathroom was fraught with danger. Oddly, I > was in no pain. I just couldn't tell up from down.
> jmc
I never had an inner ear infection but had several of the regular kind when I was a kid. They were terribly painful. Just moving was too painful so I stayed in bed until they were cleared up.
> > Thank you for your support. This morning we awoke to find her walking > > around the the dining room. She was able to walk in a straight line and > > this > > was before her Pred. She still tends to go to the left. We don't know if > > this improvement will last as she's rallied before only to crash again. > > She > > ate very well last night and today again. :-) She had three full meals of > > FancyFeast mixed with milk and warmed. She can get into the 2" deep old > > baking dish we turned into a litter pan. She doesn't seem to be in much if > > any pain today. She was purring and seeking constant attention we gave > > her. > > I only hope it lasts. > > --
> Me too. Thanks for the update. Please let us know how things > progress, good or bad. It's heartening to see the good signs!
> FirstHit
> ~ ~ ~ =^..^=
> She's even doing better today. She was up walking around and ate real well > again. She seems to have trouble hearing but is not deaf. She replies when I > talk to her but when I call her she goes in the wrong direction tilting her > head, looking around. She can hear me but doesn't seem to know where, what > direction my voice is coming from. This may improve. I'm considering taking > her to the other clinic in town if she starts going downhill again but that > place is very expensive and there's no guarantee they'd do any better than > the 1st place. As one friend said, "The Dr. (old vet) retired and the > inmates (young kids out of vet school) are running the asylum." Apparently > people pay for the good reputation of the old vet, the fancy clinic > trimmings, the location etc.
Great news. Hopefully, you won't even have to make the decision of whether to go to the other vet. If you do have to decide, let it be your own decision. You and the Mrs are the only ones who know all the circumstances.
>>> "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote
>>>> Bringing the conversation back down to earth...A suggestion to seek a >>>> second opinion is actually wise advice. We are not suggesting that you >>>> go "vet searching" and seek opinion after opinion. But, just like with >>>> humans, it is good practice to get a second opinion when the first vet >>>> seems to be having difficulty. It is possible that the second vet will >>>> also diagnose inner ear infection, but it is *also* possible that the >>>> second vet will find something that was originally overlooked. This >>>> does not necessarily mean that your current vet did not do a good job. >>>> None of us are perfect, and there are numerous instances when even a >>>> small change in protocol can locate new information. And you are >>>> thinking about the ultimate, final decision--killing your cat. I really >>>> cannot understand doing that without at least seeking a second opinion, >>>> and especially for something that is usually as treatable as inner ear >>>> infection.
>>> I know I react emotionally and in ways some people find, err, offensive, >>> but there it is. I find it offensive that anyone would consider >>> euthanizing when there are still paths to pursue and they are not even >>> that expensive. To me it is common sense and a normal heart to do so. >>> Anything else pisses me off. Thanks for being a calm voice, MaryL. I am >>> sure I will not change, so I kill file to try to keep the flames to a >>> minimum. I actually don't enjoy getting upset at this kind of thing, or >>> anything, in fact. I have a feeling this cat is a goner, for the very >>> reason that it has suffered for this long without Kelly taking it to >>> another vet. That she could just sit there. FFS. Okay, time to wrap it >>> up.
>> Yes, I guess it's time to wrap it up simply because I fear that you are >> correct. I can't imagine digging my heels in an absolutely refusing to >> seek a second opinion simply based on the determination that "it's easy >> to diagnose" inner ear infection and therefore supposedly could not be >> mistaken.
> Have you ever considered a person's financial situation? Not everyone has > the same disposable income as you do. I'm getting the impression the > people on this Group are financially well off to spend freely on stray > cats. Don't judge anyone until you walk in their shoes and I don't say > that in a sarcastic way. :-)
> She's doing much better the past 2 days.
>>Ironically, it would not cost any more for a second opinion.......
> See what I mean? :-) The other clinic in our town is so expensive not > one person I know still takes their animals there. Another $100+ for > tests, exam etc may be pocket change for you and your friends. It's a lot > of money to seniors on SS.
> that >> it costs to continually go back to the original vet (assuming that the OP >> picks up a copy of the cat's records to take to a second vet).
>> MaryL
Actually, I do know how it feels to have very limited resources. Fortunately, that does not apply to me now, but I have very clear memory of what it was like. I got my first cat when I was a graduate student and was living entirely on the money I received as a graduate assistant--and that was a very tiny sum of money. My cat became seriously ill, so I had to take him on the bus and transfer a few times (no money for a car or taxis), then walk several more blocks to get to the vet. He needed surgery, and I had to make arrangements to pay for his care over an extended period of time. It took more than two years to pay it off. So, believe me, I'm not trying to make light of anyone's situation when it comes to finances; but this is a group where we do tend to concentrate on whatever we can do for our furbabies.
Thank you very much for the update, and thank you for your other message where you said that you would go to the other clinic if kitty crashes. I live in a small town, but I am fortunate because there are several good vet clinics here; and I was even able to take Duffy to a veterinary teaching college (about 150 miles).
>> The evaluation cost $55.00 (several years ago). I thought that was >> remarkably low for a specialist (feline ophthalmologist) at a veterinary >> teaching hospital, using specialized equipment. Duffy is blind but gets >> around so well that I wanted an evaluation to see if he might have slight >> vision and whether there was anything I could do to preserve (or even >> increase) it. As it turns out, he is totally blind, but I feel better >> about having the examination to verify that. His own veterinarian was >> correct, and neither he nor I considered it any sort of an insult to >> consult a specialist for a second opinion. Duffy's condition was >> described as "anterior cleavage syndrome." His eyes are much smaller >> than normal. Since the eyes did not grow correctly, the eyelids also did >> not grow. It seems that the eyelids grow to accommodate the eye. I was >> shown a model of a cat's eye. There should be space between the iris and >> the cornea, but there is no space in Duffy's eyes; the two components >> adhered together. This probably happened in utero, and possibly was >> caused by infection in the mother. However, Duffy does not have any >> infection; and this was not caused by herpes (in Duffy) or anything >> similar.
>> You can see pictures of Duffy and Holly by going to the links under my >> signature. Duffy is truly a remarkable little guy--no one told him he is >> supposed to be "handicapped," so he just goes right ahead and does >> everything any other cat can do.
>> MaryL
> Thank you for that information. I think Lucky will be deaf in one ear. > Her left ear was as bad as an inner ear infection can be they said. I know > she'll learn to compensate in time if her hearing doesn't improve. She'll > be safe in the house with us. She shows no interest in trying to get > outside. We're sure she was someone's indoor housecat until they decided > to get rid of her. Her wounds from being attacked by the other neighbor's > cat have healed nicely.
> They're beautiful cats and you have a lovely home.
As I said, Duffy truly is remarkable. However, he doesn't jump up and down in the same way as Holly does. He loves what I call his "vertical space"--he climbs everything with great agility, and never damages anything. He will leap down from a chair or the sofa, but he *descends* from higher heights. I have a couple of tall cat trees, and also a carpeted pole mounted to the side of the computer hutch. He scrambles up and down those areas like a little gymnast. He whirls around the posts on his way up, then starts head-first downward but rotates his body and then backs down sort of like a little bear. Even so, I find him in the most remarkable places and without any damage. You may have seen the picture where he somehow got up onto the top of the easel where I was painting and was hanging down over the front of the painting. I don't have any idea how he can possibly know how to do that, but he does. If I move a chair, he will be sitting on it five minutes later.
>> Have you ever considered a person's financial situation? Not everyone has >> the same disposable income as you do. I'm getting the impression the >> people on this Group are financially well off to spend freely on stray >> cats. Don't judge anyone until you walk in their shoes and I don't say >> that in a sarcastic way. :-)
snips!
> Actually, I do know how it feels to have very limited resources. > Fortunately, that does not apply to me now, but I have very clear memory > of what it was like. I got my first cat when I was a graduate student and > was living entirely on the money I received as a graduate assistant--and > that was a very tiny sum of money. My cat became seriously ill, so I had > to take him on the bus and transfer a few times (no money for a car or > taxis), then walk several more blocks to get to the vet. He needed > surgery, and I had to make arrangements to pay for his care over an > extended period of time. It took more than two years to pay it off. So, > believe me, I'm not trying to make light of anyone's situation when it > comes to finances; but this is a group where we do tend to concentrate on > whatever we can do for our furbabies.
Well she's much better now and sees the vet tomorrow for another follow-up. Although we can see she's not in pain anymore, she is not normal. She stays on the floor all the time. She can walk just fine and wants to be petted "on the floor". She will not sit in our laps or sleep on the sofa or beds. We think she may be deaf in that one ear and sometimes it appears she can't see well and judge distances. She'll blunder right into her food bowl seemingly unaware of that she's doing, then back up to eat. I suppose it'll take time for her to get back to normal... although we don't know what "normal" is for her.
> Thank you very much for the update, and thank you for your other message > where you said that you would go to the other clinic if kitty crashes. I > live in a small town, but I am fortunate because there are several good > vet clinics here; and I was even able to take Duffy to a veterinary > teaching college (about 150 miles).
It's good that you found a way to do all those things. It's wonderful to be young...... :-)
>>> Have you ever considered a person's financial situation? Not everyone >>> has the same disposable income as you do. I'm getting the impression the >>> people on this Group are financially well off to spend freely on stray >>> cats. Don't judge anyone until you walk in their shoes and I don't say >>> that in a sarcastic way. :-)
> snips!
>> Actually, I do know how it feels to have very limited resources. >> Fortunately, that does not apply to me now, but I have very clear memory >> of what it was like. I got my first cat when I was a graduate student >> and was living entirely on the money I received as a graduate >> assistant--and that was a very tiny sum of money. My cat became >> seriously ill, so I had to take him on the bus and transfer a few times >> (no money for a car or taxis), then walk several more blocks to get to >> the vet. He needed surgery, and I had to make arrangements to pay for >> his care over an extended period of time. It took more than two years to >> pay it off. So, believe me, I'm not trying to make light of anyone's >> situation when it comes to finances; but this is a group where we do tend >> to concentrate on whatever we can do for our furbabies.
> Well she's much better now and sees the vet tomorrow for another > follow-up. Although we can see she's not in pain anymore, she is not > normal. She stays on the floor all the time. She can walk just fine and > wants to be petted "on the floor". She will not sit in our laps or sleep > on the sofa or beds. We think she may be deaf in that one ear and > sometimes it appears she can't see well and judge distances. She'll > blunder right into her food bowl seemingly unaware of that she's doing, > then back up to eat. I suppose it'll take time for her to get back to > normal... although we don't know what "normal" is for her.
>> Thank you very much for the update, and thank you for your other message >> where you said that you would go to the other clinic if kitty crashes. I >> live in a small town, but I am fortunate because there are several good >> vet clinics here; and I was even able to take Duffy to a veterinary >> teaching college (about 150 miles).
> It's good that you found a way to do all those things. It's wonderful to > be young...... :-)
>> MaryL
Thanks for the update. This is beginning to sound like some neurological problems, but your vet would be your best source of information on that.
Yes, I guess it's wonderful to be young. On the other hand, it has been a very long time since I could have been considered "young," and I have also found some benefits to getting older (as long as I remain healthy!).
Great news. Hopefully, you won't even have to make the decision of whether to go to the other vet. If you do have to decide, let it be your own decision. You and the Mrs are the only ones who know all the circumstances.
I think you've been very kind to the kitty.
FirstHit
~~~~~~~ She saw the vet this afternoon. She's continuing to improve day by day. :-) It's hard to believe how sick she was only a week ago. She goes back in 2 weeks again. The vet said it could take another month before she starts acting like cat. Right now she's still lethargic but eating 3 good meals a day and gained a few more ounces. :-)) She sleeps a lot and still stays on the floor.
> "Kelly Greene" <kg1...@wildred.net> wrote in message > news:hcbbdu$al$1@solani.org... >> Thank you for that information. I think Lucky will be deaf in one ear. >> Her left ear was as bad as an inner ear infection can be they said. I >> know she'll learn to compensate in time if her hearing doesn't improve. >> She'll be safe in the house with us. She shows no interest in trying to >> get outside. We're sure she was someone's indoor housecat until they >> decided to get rid of her. Her wounds from being attacked by the other >> neighbor's cat have healed nicely.
>> They're beautiful cats and you have a lovely home.
> As I said, Duffy truly is remarkable. However, he doesn't jump up and > down in the same way as Holly does. He loves what I call his "vertical > space"--he climbs everything with great agility, and never damages > anything. He will leap down from a chair or the sofa, but he *descends* > from higher heights. I have a couple of tall cat trees, and also a > carpeted pole mounted to the side of the computer hutch. He scrambles up > and down those areas like a little gymnast. He whirls around the posts on > his way up, then starts head-first downward but rotates his body and then > backs down sort of like a little bear. Even so, I find him in the most > remarkable places and without any damage. You may have seen the picture > where he somehow got up onto the top of the easel where I was painting and > was hanging down over the front of the painting.
No, I didn't see that picture. But I saw him up on things all through your home.
I don't have any idea how he can possibly know how
> to do that, but he does. If I move a chair, he will be sitting on it five > minutes later.
He somehow senses they're there. Animals are remarkable and can do wonderful things! Duffy doesn't know he's handicapped. He's looks like a perfectly happy contented cat. :-)
> What, you feel you have spent >> enough money, is that it? I have never even heard of a cat being given a >> death sentence over an ear infection.
> You would rather see them suffer endlessly? If the 2nd vet also diagnosed > a severe inner ear infection you will then demand a 3rd, then 4th vet's > opinion. I've run into your type on pet boards and forums before.
> I have had severe inner ear >> infections, they make you dizzy as hell, you may have to have your ear >> drum lanced, but they are not life threatening, and stumbling around is >> not grounds for termination. Asshole.
> You're the asshole since with each insane post of yours you lose > credibility. When someone doesn't see things your way you debase yourself > by turning to low-life profanity as if it impresses adults. You post like > an socially isolated teenager lacking in social skills. Do yourself a > favor and stop reading or responding to my messages. You're no > veterinarian or cat expert and no one asked you your opinion or help > concerning this cat.
>> and the rude asshole is YOU. You not >>> only assume what people think and how they feel, but you change the >>> meaning of what they post. How many vets opinions would it take to meet >>> with your approval? This cat is in misery and suffering. She is slowly >>> going downhill. It's a stray cat we took in when a neighbor moved away. >>> It really pisses me off when assholes jump in and shoot off their mouths >>> without knowing the facts.
> Yea, two vets and more if necessary. All vets are not created equal and > some are total a**holes.
See my post above in that thread. I agree some are even worse than a$$hole$. The first vet has a very good reputation in town. The second vet is up on all the latest techniques and treatments as she's young and not out of school very long.
> Are they sure this is just an infection? Have they checked for polyps or > other growths in the inner ear?
>> What, you feel you have spent >>> enough money, is that it? I have never even heard of a cat being given a >>> death sentence over an ear infection.
>> You would rather see them suffer endlessly? If the 2nd vet also >> diagnosed a severe inner ear infection you will then demand a 3rd, then >> 4th vet's opinion. I've run into your type on pet boards and forums >> before.
>> I have had severe inner ear >>> infections, they make you dizzy as hell, you may have to have your ear >>> drum lanced, but they are not life threatening, and stumbling around is >>> not grounds for termination. Asshole.
>> You're the asshole since with each insane post of yours you lose >> credibility. When someone doesn't see things your way you debase >> yourself by turning to low-life profanity as if it impresses adults. You >> post like an socially isolated teenager lacking in social skills. Do >> yourself a favor and stop reading or responding to my messages. You're >> no veterinarian or cat expert and no one asked you your opinion or help >> concerning this cat.
>>> and the rude asshole is YOU. You not >>>> only assume what people think and how they feel, but you change the >>>> meaning of what they post. How many vets opinions would it take to meet >>>> with your approval? This cat is in misery and suffering. She is >>>> slowly going downhill. It's a stray cat we took in when a neighbor >>>> moved away. It really pisses me off when assholes jump in and shoot off >>>> their mouths without knowing the facts.
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