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Lucky  
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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:29:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 12:29 pm
Subject: My cat
A year ago, my 12-13 year old cat's stomach was bloated w/ fluid (he
was otherwise very thin by nature) and the vet suspected cancer.  The
tests came back neg., and they put him on a low cal diet and Rutin.
His stomach went down, but he did vomit a little more than normal I
think, and he continue to have a "ravenous appetite"  He would eat
anything, jump on counters, lick plants etc.  However, I thought he
had gotten better so I never took him back to the vet.  Last month, he
started hiding in the house, and then he walked in the room and was so
thin and almost fell over he was so weak.  I took him to the emergency
room, and they told me he was very sick.  They said they felt a
intestinal mass, dehydrated and hard feces like he had not used the
bathroom for several days.  They advised me to either put him to sleep
or costly treatment that wold be difficult for a cat his age.  I had
to let him go.
Now, I am so worried about something I had not thought of before he
got sick.  I had been spraying Raid all summer in my kitchen.  I have
another cat and a dog and they are not sick, but my cat that died, is
the only one who would jump on the counters and eat anything in sight
(even soap).  I am so worried that I made him sick.  Although, his
symptoms above all indicate more like cancer or something...  He
didn't have diarea or seizures or anything.  He just threw-up which
was normal and hid away with no energy, lost appetite (which was
unusual) and stopped using the bathroom.
Does anyone have any information on this and by reading about his
symptoms and behavious do you think he had a disease or was he
poisoned??  Thank you

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Kelly Greene  
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From: "Kelly Greene" <kg1...@wildred.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:43:22 -0500
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: My cat

"Lucky" <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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> Now, I am so worried about something I had not thought of before he
> got sick.  I had been spraying Raid all summer in my kitchen.

All me to suggest you find another solution to your insect problem. Raid
isn't something you want to spray on kitchen counters. Perhaps call an
exterminator.  I'm not a vet so have no idea what your cat's problem was.
But a cat eating soap sounds like it needed more food. Not dry cereal food
but good canned food.
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Petzl  
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 More options Oct 29, 12:46 pm
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From: Petzl <pet...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:46:54 +1100
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Lucky

You have just lost a good friend, not nice and sad
I always thought a cats life expectancy was around 12?
My present cat is 22 and although its spine feels bony (bad sign means
it's on it's way out) still active though

Petzl


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From: Petzl <pet...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:54:20 +1100
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 12:54 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:43:22 -0500, "Kelly Greene"

<kg1...@wildred.net> wrote:

>"Lucky" <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:17402f32-08c6-4d78-a21d-a3ea6fea1708@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>> Now, I am so worried about something I had not thought of before he
>> got sick.  I had been spraying Raid all summer in my kitchen.

>All me to suggest you find another solution to your insect problem. Raid
>isn't something you want to spray on kitchen counters. Perhaps call an
>exterminator.  I'm not a vet so have no idea what your cat's problem was.
>But a cat eating soap sounds like it needed more food. Not dry cereal food
>but good canned food.

Doubt if insect killer like Raid is a problem (Advantage or other flea
controls are poisonous/deadly but needed and care must be taken using
them)
For house the automated Raid type (or your favorite brand) are VERY
good stops flea infestations which are real pet killers (one flea can
become thousands)
http://www.raidautomatic.com.au/micromist.html

Petzl
A good


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Lucky  
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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:56:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Oct 28, 9:43 pm, "Kelly Greene" <kg1...@wildred.net> wrote:

He ate so much food (abnormally), I would go through a bags of the
dried cat food the vet recommended when he had a distended stomach.
Possibly cancer or some other illness caused him to never get enough.
I wish he were here and I would feed him some canned food.  I thought
canned food was bad for cats/dogs.  I just feel horrible about his
death.  I loved him so much.  I found him in a pound 13 yrs ago. and
bonded instantly.  I will never be able to replace him.

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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Oct 28, 9:54 pm, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl, thank you.  I lost the best friend.  It was one of the hardest
days of my life.  I guess there is a reason, I didn't mention the Raid
question that day, and the Vet never suspected poisoning.  She said
she thought he had a mass and probably cancer.  Do you think I should
call her and ask if he showed any symptoms of Raid Poisoning, or
should I let it go since he is gone now?

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From: Petzl <pet...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:08:19 +1100
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:00:52 -0700 (PDT), Lucky

<psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Do you think I should
>call her and ask if he showed any symptoms of Raid Poisoning, or
>should I let it go since he is gone now?

No
I doubt Raid will harm poison anything except insects
Your cat had the best life one could give
Don't know why mine is still alive at 22 but most cats succumb around
12 years old no mater what you do.
Sorry for you loss of a good faithful friend
Petzl

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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:32:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Oct 28, 10:08 pm, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:00:52 -0700 (PDT), Lucky

> <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >Do you think I should
> >call her and ask if he showed any symptoms of Raid Poisoning, or
> >should I let it go since he is gone now?

> No
> I doubt Raid will harm poison anything except insects
> Your cat had the best life one could give
> Don't know why mine is still alive at 22 but most cats succumb around
> 12 years old no mater what you do.
> Sorry for you loss of a good faithful friend
> Petzl

Thank you so much for a little peace of mind.  That's great you have a
22 yr old cat.  I hope my other 2 animals live that long - it's too
difficult seeing them go.  I think in my heart I believe he had
cancer.  several yrs ago he ate a little bit of a poisettia, and I
took him to the vet.  He had so much diarhea, and acted different when
he had poisoning, than this time.  Then with all the symptoms last
year - I think he probably had cancer last yr and it wasn't detected.
Because the test was negative and he seemed to be getting better
(stomach fluid went down), I didn't think he needed to go in for more
tests.  I just pray that he had a peaceful life, and I loved him so
much - he was a very cool cat.  Sadly, 12-14 yrs is not long enough :
(  I miss him.

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From: "cybercat" <cyberpu...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:56:14 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: My cat

"Lucky" <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in

 >I just feel horrible about his
death.  I loved him so much.  I found him in a pound 13 yrs ago. and
bonded instantly.  I will never be able to replace him.

 I'm so sorry for your loss. You didn't do anything wrong it was just his
time to go. The love you built together will be there always. He was a lucky
cat. Be good to yourself now. You were certainly good to him.


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From: "cybercat" <cyberpu...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:58:54 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: My cat

"Lucky" <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
tests.  I just pray that he had a peaceful life, and I loved him so
much - he was a very cool cat.  Sadly, 12-14 yrs is not long enough :
(  I miss him.)

Do you have some pictures you might put up on a web site, then put the link
here? I would love to see photos of him. He sounds very cool. I know he
loved you so much too.  I'm so sorry for your loss.


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Lucky  
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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:12:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Oct 28, 10:58 pm, "cybercat" <cyberpu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Lucky" <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote
> tests.  I just pray that he had a peaceful life, and I loved him so
> much - he was a very cool cat.  Sadly, 12-14 yrs is not long enough :
> (  I miss him.)

> Do you have some pictures you might put up on a web site, then put the link
> here? I would love to see photos of him. He sounds very cool. I know he
> loved you so much too.  I'm so sorry for your loss.

Thank you...  I am organizing some photos and will see if I can post
some here.  He was so sweet.  He was a tabby cat.   There were cuter
kittens at the pound when I found him and everyone tried to get me to
choose another one, but when I held him he never tried to jump out of
my arms like the other cats.  At the vet, the nurse commented what a
little lover he was.  He was also so special and smart.  I was lucky
to have found him and thank you for your kind note.  I think the bond
w/ a cat like that is as strong as any relationship.  We did build a
lasting love connection and I'm grateful and feel better knowing that
I took care of him the best I could the last 13 yrs. Will probably
always miss him...

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 More options Oct 29, 7:34 pm
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From: FirstHit <First...@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:34:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 7:34 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Oct 28, 10:00 pm, Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I'm very sorry about your cat.  Focus on the wonderful memories of
your cat.  Try not to focus too much on guilt, as it can actually
interfere with the grieving process.  Most likely the Raid was not the
cause of death anyway.

You might want to read some of the posts over at the following
newsgroup:
alt.support.grief.pet-loss

You might also want to memorialize your cat.  When my cat died
recently, I blew some pictures up and hung them on the wall.  Also, I
wrote down my many memories with her.  I found that very therapeutic.

FirstHit


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From: dgk <d...@somewhere.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:58:39 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Lucky

I wouldn't spray Raid or anything like that around where my cats could
get at it. I'd worry about poisioning but that would be something
acute, not chronic. It is really unlikely that your cat died from
Raid- they do get cancer and heart disease and such. Most of my cats
don't make it pass 12.

By the way, look at this:

http://www.unexco.com/roach1.html

He says not to use sprays, they just push roaches into new areas. The
bait traps are the thing.


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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:52:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Oct 29, 4:58 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:

Thanks everyone for responding and kind words.  It really helped more
than I expected and I'm glad I stumbled onto this site.  The vet
actually called me back today and left me a voice mail.  She said that
she took some of the fluid out of Wolfie's stomach after he passed
away, and that she thought he had an abscess that had ruptured, and
also that he had a tumor although she did not do an autopsy.  She said
there was nothing I could've done to prevent all that was going on
with him.  She said the bug spray was probably not the reason he
became so ill.  Well, I got him in 1996 - 13 yrs ago, and he was a
little bigger than most of the kittens so he could have been around 14
yrs old.  That is a long life.   I will write something for him and
send it to you all.  Thanks so much for the support.

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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Oct 29, 4:58 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:

Thanks for the article.  That is my problem, I live in a condo, and my
kitchen is infested w/ roaches....

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From: FirstHit <First...@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:21:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Oct 29, 10:00 pm, Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Have you ever tried boric acid to get rid of the roaches?  It is quite
effective and is pretty safe for you.  You sprinkle it in and near the
cracks where the roaches come in and out of your kitchen and rooms.
The roaches get it on themselves and take it back to their nests.  As
I recall, it dries them up.

FirstHit


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 More options Oct 30, 2:24 pm
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From: Petzl <pet...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:24:06 +1100
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT), Lucky

<psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> http://www.unexco.com/roach1.html

>> He says not to use sprays, they just push roaches into new areas. The
>> bait traps are the thing.- Hide quoted text -

>Thanks for the article.  That is my problem, I live in a condo, and my
>kitchen is infested w/ roaches....

For Australian conditions raid or mortein Automatic is effective
In 24 hours only equates to a 5 second spray
needs 6 foot from floor no closer to ceiling than 2 foot

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From: "cybercat" <cyberpu...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:38:40 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: My cat

"Lucky" <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote

>Thanks for the article.  That is my problem, I live in a condo, and my
>kitchen is infested w/ roaches....

Those traps work great. When the weather gets cold, we get those big black
ones, and occasionally see the little ones, which I think are much more
evil. I put the traps down two weeks ago and have not seen a single roach.

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From: "cybercat" <cyberpu...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:45:42 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 11:45 pm
Subject: Re: My cat

"Lucky" <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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On Oct 29, 4:58 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Lucky

>Thanks everyone for responding and kind words.  It really helped more
>than I expected and I'm glad I stumbled onto this site.

We're glad you're here, too.

>The vet
>actually called me back today and left me a voice mail.  She said that
>she took some of the fluid out of Wolfie's stomach after he passed
>away, and that she thought he had an abscess that had ruptured, and
>also that he had a tumor although she did not do an autopsy.  She said
>there was nothing I could've done to prevent all that was going on
>with him.  She said the bug spray was probably not the reason he
>became so ill.

Yes, though it is best not to use strong chemical pesticides or cleaners
around cats, what you are doing is what we all do when we lose a pet. You
worry that you did something to cause ill health, but chances are you did
not. When our cat Boo died from oral cancer I thought the carpet cleaner my
husband used down where she hung out a lot might have caused it, simply
based upon my disgust with the stuff. (That strong-scented powder you put on
the rug and vacuum up? Instead of properly steam cleaning the rug?) But the
fact is, many things may have caused her oral cancer including hereditary
factors. Like you, just in case, we are never using that stuff again.

>Well, I got him in 1996 - 13 yrs ago, and he was a
>little bigger than most of the kittens so he could have been around 14
>yrs old.  That is a long life.   I will write something for him and
>send it to you all.  Thanks so much for the support.

Our Boo only lived to be 14, and by 11 she had heart and thyroid disease.
Like people, some just start out stronger than others. My cat that lived to
be 18-20 never had any kind of ailment until she just stopped eating and
nothing could induce her to start. She died with every single one of her
teeth, too and she never once had a dental. (I could not afford one, as a
college student, and also worried about the fact that they use anesthesia
and some cats don't come out of it.)

Looking forward to pictures and stories, and hoping one day you will be able
to open your heart to another deserving kitty who needs you.


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From: "Kelly Greene" <kg1...@wildred.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:05:42 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 2 2009 1:05 pm
Subject: Re: My cat

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I wouldn't use these chemicals in my house with pets or small children
around. There are harmless hormones to treat a flea infestation. It keeps
the larvae from developing into adult fleas. In no time at all you have a
flea free home. Boric acid will get rid of roaches.  I'm sure you can find
it locally or online.

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From: Petzl <pet...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:37:29 +1100
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 4:37 am
Subject: Re: My cat
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:05:42 -0600, "Kelly Greene" <kg1...@wildred.net>
wrote:

Yep Boric Acid works a very thin film of powder in spots/target areas
if kept dry will work for years. It is slow acting (5 to 10 days)but
effective

Petzl


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Kelly Greene  
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From: "Kelly Greene" <kg1...@wildred.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:56:05 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 6:56 am
Subject: Re: My cat

"Lucky" <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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On Oct 28, 9:43 pm, "Kelly Greene" <kg1...@wildred.net> wrote:

He ate so much food (abnormally), I would go through a bags of the
dried cat food the vet recommended when he had a distended stomach.
Possibly cancer or some other illness caused him to never get enough.
I wish he were here and I would feed him some canned food.  I thought
canned food was bad for cats/dogs.  I just feel horrible about his
death.  I loved him so much.  I found him in a pound 13 yrs ago. and
bonded instantly.  I will never be able to replace him.
~~~~~~

Please don't  blame yourself.  He had a nice long life.


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From: Jannie <melville1...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:04:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 9:04 am
Subject: Re: My cat
On Nov 2, 4:56 pm, "Kelly Greene" <kg1...@wildred.net> wrote:

I agree, you were so good, he was lucky to have you..........after a
while you will stop second guessing and just remember all the good
times you had with him.  I am so sorry for your loss, I know the pain
can be unbareable sometimes.

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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:57:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Nov 2, 5:04 pm, Jannie <melville1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you all so much for your kind words.  I will try to find the
boric acid as I have 2 other small pets..(dog and cat).  I miss my
little guy so much as he was truly my buddy and would always sleep
next to my head and put his paw on my face.  He was so sweet and never
nervous, very relaxed.  I felt he loved me and was so loyal to me.
It's sad.

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From: Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:35:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: My cat
On Nov 2, 8:57 pm, Lucky <psmit...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hi everyone,
This girl at work today was telling everyone about her 13 yr cat who
at a thyroid tumor.  She said she paid for his surgery and radiation
and the cat is doing fine...  I didn't tell her about my cat, but was
really depressed all day, because I feel I should have done more for
my little cat.  Last year, they suspected he had cancer, but then
ruled it out and put him on a low cal diet.  His swelled stomach went
down so I thought he was ok..  When he started hiding and throwing up,
I just thought he had an upset stomach...  I feel like I could've
prevented putting him to sleep...  I would do anything to have known
he was so sick and I too would've paid for his treatment even if it
was going to be $2,200.  Has anyone had feelings of guilt, like you
let your pet down and let them die....  I feel terrible and I miss him
so much.

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