I believe there are some feline flea, worm and parasite treatments that can be added to food.
I'm looking for an oral alternative to the topical skin treatment known as Revolution.
I would like to treat a feral cat for fleas (at least) and as many other things as possible while I'm at it. I know that there are oral forms of these treatments, but I don't know their brand names or what spacifically they treat or prevent (I'm not looking for the identity of specific drugs that treat, say, tape worms like milbemax). I'm looking for oral, prophylactic treatments (or a combination of treatments) for fleas, mites, ticks, worms, parasites, etc.
And while I'm on the topic, is it true that Revolution does not effectively treat ticks? If so, is there any prophylactic, topical or oral treatment that does?
"Cat Guy" <C...@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4AF192E4.FF97A9CC@Guy.com... >I believe there are some feline flea, worm and parasite treatments that > can be added to food.
Don't try to treat any animal that has not been seen by a vet. If you care about the cat, trap it or contact a trap, neuter, spay group that will trap it and take it to the vet.
"Cat Guy" <C...@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4AF192E4.FF97A9CC@Guy.com... >I believe there are some feline flea, worm and parasite treatments that > can be added to food.
> I'm looking for an oral alternative to the topical skin treatment known > as Revolution.
> I would like to treat a feral cat for fleas (at least) and as many other > things as possible while I'm at it. I know that there are oral forms of > these treatments, but I don't know their brand names or what > spacifically they treat or prevent (I'm not looking for the identity of > specific drugs that treat, say, tape worms like milbemax). I'm looking > for oral, prophylactic treatments (or a combination of treatments) for > fleas, mites, ticks, worms, parasites, etc.
> And while I'm on the topic, is it true that Revolution does not > effectively treat ticks? If so, is there any prophylactic, topical or > oral treatment that does?
May I suggest you call an Animal Shelter or Veterinary clinic and ask them. They would know the answer and perhaps even sell you what you need.
"Cat Guy" <C...@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4AF192E4.FF97A9CC@Guy.com... >I believe there are some feline flea, worm and parasite treatments that > can be added to food.
> I'm looking for an oral alternative to the topical skin treatment known > as Revolution.
> I would like to treat a feral cat for fleas (at least) and as many other > things as possible while I'm at it. I know that there are oral forms of > these treatments, but I don't know their brand names or what > spacifically they treat or prevent (I'm not looking for the identity of > specific drugs that treat, say, tape worms like milbemax). I'm looking > for oral, prophylactic treatments (or a combination of treatments) for > fleas, mites, ticks, worms, parasites, etc.
> And while I'm on the topic, is it true that Revolution does not > effectively treat ticks? If so, is there any prophylactic, topical or > oral treatment that does?
Having done this with a feral cat, my advice is to trap the cat, and give him/her to a vet for the primary treatment.....That way the cat can be given shots and specific treatment for the common diseases that are prevalent in such animals. Have the cat neutered while you are at it, or it will contract FIV which is a real loser among wild animals. It will domesticate much more easily after neutering, too.
>I believe there are some feline flea, > worm and parasite treatments that can > be added to food. >I'm looking for an oral alternative to the > topical skin treatment known as > Revolution.
The only treatment that I know of is called "Program". It doesn't kill fleas but prevents their eggs from producing.
"Cat Guy" <C...@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4AF192E4.FF97A9CC@Guy.com... >I believe there are some feline flea, worm and parasite treatments that > can be added to food.
> I'm looking for an oral alternative to the topical skin treatment known > as Revolution.
> I would like to treat a feral cat for fleas (at least) and as many other > things as possible while I'm at it. I know that there are oral forms of > these treatments, but I don't know their brand names or what > spacifically they treat or prevent (I'm not looking for the identity of > specific drugs that treat, say, tape worms like milbemax). I'm looking > for oral, prophylactic treatments (or a combination of treatments) for > fleas, mites, ticks, worms, parasites, etc.
> And while I'm on the topic, is it true that Revolution does not > effectively treat ticks? If so, is there any prophylactic, topical or > oral treatment that does?
I am in the UK and use an on-line animal medication service. For some treatments, you will need a prescription; for many, you will not. Try this link:
Whilst visiting this site (in your interest), I saw a treatment called 'Capstar' which treats fleas orally. There may be other products. Certainly, there is a facility for asking questions.
If you are in the US or elsewhere in the world, there may be a company nearer home that you'd rather use, so try googling and see what comes up. Otherwise, follow some of the helpful advice you were given and contact a vet or animal rescue shelter.
Spider wrote: > I am in the UK and use an on-line animal medication service.
(...)
I guess I was wrong in thinking that there are readers here who actually care enough for their cats to give them these prevantative treatments, at least to the extent that they actually know the names of these treatments and what they prevent.
Except for Mike (thanks for identifying "Progam" as one such treatment. I'll look into it).
> For some treatments, you will need a prescription;
I was not looking for a way to get these treatments.
I was looking for just their IDENTITY. Their TRADE or BRAND NAMES.
Once I know THEIR NAMES I can go to my vet and ask for them.
Vets don't always know THE NAMES of ALL THE DRUGS AND TREATMENTS that are out there.
Suddenly, without warning, Cat Guy exclaimed (11/4/2009 8:58 PM):
> Why can't I just get an answer to these simple questions:
> 1) what is eqivalent to Revolution, but in oral form?
> 2) is it true that Revolution is not effective against ticks?
1) I don't think there is one, or my vet would have recommended it for my cat, who doesn't handle any topical well. She's currently on Revolution, which only bothers her for a short time (Frontline freaked her out for hours).
2) Ticks are not on Revolution's list:
* Kills adult fleas (Ctenocephalides felis) and prevents flea eggs from hatching. * Prevents heartworm disease caused by Dirofilaria immitis. * Treats and controls ear mites (Otodectes cynotis). * Treats and controls roundworms (Toxocara cati) and hookworms (Ancylostoma tubaeforme).
Afraid you'll need something else to work against ticks. My cat is indoors or on a deck, so ticks aren't an issue.
FWIW, my understanding from this board is it isn't always effective against ear mites - or at least, not against an active population - might be more effective against them taking hold in the first place.
>> I am in the UK and use an on-line animal medication service.
> (...)
> I guess I was wrong in thinking that there are readers here who actually > care enough for their cats to give them these prevantative treatments, > at least to the extent that they actually know the names of these > treatments and what they prevent.
> Except for Mike (thanks for identifying "Progam" as one such treatment. > I'll look into it).
>> For some treatments, you will need a prescription;
> I was not looking for a way to get these treatments.
> I was looking for just their IDENTITY. Their TRADE or BRAND NAMES.
> Once I know THEIR NAMES I can go to my vet and ask for them.
> Vets don't always know THE NAMES of ALL THE DRUGS AND TREATMENTS that > are out there.
Yes, but vets can look them up. They do have books, and resources that we non-vets do not have access to. Have you talked to yours? Did you try Google or your favorite search engine? I did, and came up with nothing on an oral Revolution, but something on Program.
Program is an "oral suspension". I think that means you still have to drop it in their mouth, rather than their food. It also does not treat ticks.
Please don't accuse us of not caring for our cats when it's simply that we don't know the answer, which with the experience of some here, probably means what you are looking for doesn't exist.
> Suddenly, without warning, Cat Guy exclaimed (11/5/2009 8:47 AM):
> > Spider wrote:
> >> I am in the UK and use an on-line animal medication service.
> > (...)
> > I guess I was wrong in thinking that there are readers here who actually > > care enough for their cats to give them these prevantative treatments, > > at least to the extent that they actually know the names of these > > treatments and what they prevent.
> > Except for Mike (thanks for identifying "Progam" as one such treatment. > > I'll look into it).
> >> For some treatments, you will need a prescription;
> > I was not looking for a way to get these treatments.
> > I was looking for just their IDENTITY. Their TRADE or BRAND NAMES.
> > Once I know THEIR NAMES I can go to my vet and ask for them.
> > Vets don't always know THE NAMES of ALL THE DRUGS AND TREATMENTS that > > are out there.
> Yes, but vets can look them up. They do have books, and resources that > we non-vets do not have access to. Have you talked to yours? Did you > try Google or your favorite search engine? I did, and came up with > nothing on an oral Revolution, but something on Program.
> Program is an "oral suspension". I think that means you still have to > drop it in their mouth, rather than their food. It also does not treat > ticks.
You can mix it with their food. This is the first product that came out that you give to a cat once a month to prevent fleas. It is highly effective and probably safer than the other things on the market (like Advantage, Frontline, etc). The negatives are (1) it does not work on anything but fleas; (2) It does not kill fleas; it disables their eggs, so if you already have a flea infestation, it will take a few months before you are flea-free. My experience with Program, back when Program was the only product on the market, was that it does indeed eradicate fleas, but like I said, it takes a number of months.
> On Nov 5, 6:56 am, jmc <NOnewsgroupsS...@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote: >> Suddenly, without warning, Cat Guy exclaimed (11/5/2009 8:47 AM):
>>> Spider wrote: >>>> I am in the UK and use an on-line animal medication service. >>> (...) >>> I guess I was wrong in thinking that there are readers here who actually >>> care enough for their cats to give them these prevantative treatments, >>> at least to the extent that they actually know the names of these >>> treatments and what they prevent. >>> Except for Mike (thanks for identifying "Progam" as one such treatment. >>> I'll look into it). >>>> For some treatments, you will need a prescription; >>> I was not looking for a way to get these treatments. >>> I was looking for just their IDENTITY. Their TRADE or BRAND NAMES. >>> Once I know THEIR NAMES I can go to my vet and ask for them. >>> Vets don't always know THE NAMES of ALL THE DRUGS AND TREATMENTS that >>> are out there. >> Yes, but vets can look them up. They do have books, and resources that >> we non-vets do not have access to. Have you talked to yours? Did you >> try Google or your favorite search engine? I did, and came up with >> nothing on an oral Revolution, but something on Program.
>> Program is an "oral suspension". I think that means you still have to >> drop it in their mouth, rather than their food. It also does not treat >> ticks.
> You can mix it with their food. This is the first product that came > out that you give to a cat once a month to prevent fleas. It is > highly effective and probably safer than the other things on the > market (like Advantage, Frontline, etc). The negatives are (1) it > does not work on anything but fleas; (2) It does not kill fleas; it > disables their eggs, so if you already have a flea infestation, it > will take a few months before you are flea-free. My experience with > Program, back when Program was the only product on the market, was > that it does indeed eradicate fleas, but like I said, it takes a > number of months.
> FirstHit
Given that, I'd not think it'd work well for a feral, since he'd be constantly in contact with new flea sources. Sounds like it's a good product for an indoor-only cat.
> Suddenly, without warning, FirstHit exclaimed (11/5/2009 2:20 PM):
> > On Nov 5, 6:56 am, jmc <NOnewsgroupsS...@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote: > >> Suddenly, without warning, Cat Guy exclaimed (11/5/2009 8:47 AM):
> >>> Spider wrote: > >>>> I am in the UK and use an on-line animal medication service. > >>> (...) > >>> I guess I was wrong in thinking that there are readers here who actually > >>> care enough for their cats to give them these prevantative treatments, > >>> at least to the extent that they actually know the names of these > >>> treatments and what they prevent. > >>> Except for Mike (thanks for identifying "Progam" as one such treatment. > >>> I'll look into it). > >>>> For some treatments, you will need a prescription; > >>> I was not looking for a way to get these treatments. > >>> I was looking for just their IDENTITY. Their TRADE or BRAND NAMES. > >>> Once I know THEIR NAMES I can go to my vet and ask for them. > >>> Vets don't always know THE NAMES of ALL THE DRUGS AND TREATMENTS that > >>> are out there. > >> Yes, but vets can look them up. They do have books, and resources that > >> we non-vets do not have access to. Have you talked to yours? Did you > >> try Google or your favorite search engine? I did, and came up with > >> nothing on an oral Revolution, but something on Program.
> >> Program is an "oral suspension". I think that means you still have to > >> drop it in their mouth, rather than their food. It also does not treat > >> ticks.
> > You can mix it with their food. This is the first product that came > > out that you give to a cat once a month to prevent fleas. It is > > highly effective and probably safer than the other things on the > > market (like Advantage, Frontline, etc). The negatives are (1) it > > does not work on anything but fleas; (2) It does not kill fleas; it > > disables their eggs, so if you already have a flea infestation, it > > will take a few months before you are flea-free. My experience with > > Program, back when Program was the only product on the market, was > > that it does indeed eradicate fleas, but like I said, it takes a > > number of months.
> > FirstHit
> Given that, I'd not think it'd work well for a feral, since he'd be > constantly in contact with new flea sources. Sounds like it's a good > product for an indoor-only cat.
I agree. Had Advantage been available at the time, I probably would have gone with that because it would have been nice to kill the multitude of fleas in the house ASAP.
There are things I don't like about Advantage though. I have tried it once, and it seemed that most of the drug was absorbed by the cat's thick fur rather than the skin. I think the product did its job, but it always left me feeling like that cat didn't get the dose she should have. The other thing is that the Advantage is a product that works with the flea's nervous system, and it can have neurological effects on the cat. The manufacturer also advises you (for your safety) to not be touching the site where you applied it for 24 hours (as I recall from years ago). I found it somewhat difficult to completely avoid the site while petting the cat. (That said, Neither the kitty nor I experienced noticeable adverse effects.)
"Selamectin fights both internal and surface parasitic infection. Absorbed into the body through the skin and hair follicles, it travels through the bloodstream, intestines, and sebaceous glands; parasites ingest the drug when they feed on the animal's blood."
Many web sources say that Selamectin is either (a) effective against ticks, or (b) effective against some ticks, or (c) effective against some ticks in dogs. This page:
Says that it's effective only against one type of tick (Dermacentor variabilis) in dogs.
It's quite possible that Selamectin (Revolution) is effective for cats against ticks - it's just that unless or until the manufacturer (Pfizer) does the tests and makes the appropriate submission to the FDA, Pfizer can't claim it's effective against ticks or put that wording on the label.
It's my observation that most pet medications are tested and applied for acreditation with the FDA in conjunction with their use on dogs, because people seem to spend more on health care for dogs vs cats (more total dollars spent on dogs that is). I think that's why there are more canine medications that are used off-label for cats (sometimes experimentally) rather than the other way around.
> I believe there are some feline flea, worm and parasite treatments that > can be added to food.
Nope there are some oral medications but they come in pill form so you have to pill the cats I am not sure if you can add them to food
I used Johnson's "4 Fleas" (not sure if they're available in the US) small pills that start killing fleas within 10 minutes of ingestion apparently certainly my cats started to scratch at that point then we gave them a second dose a few days later and as indoors cats they have been flea free for the last 5 years
> On 4 Nov, 06:42, Cat Guy <C...@Guy.com> wrote: >> I believe there are some feline flea, worm and parasite treatments that >> can be added to food.
> Nope there are some oral medications but they come in pill form so you > have to pill the cats I am not sure if you can add them to food
> I used Johnson's "4 Fleas" (not sure if they're available in the US) > small pills that start killing fleas within 10 minutes of ingestion > apparently certainly my cats started to scratch at that point then we > gave them a second dose a few days later and as indoors cats they > have been flea free for the last 5 years
> On 4 Nov, 06:42, Cat Guy <C...@Guy.com> wrote: >> I believe there are some feline flea, worm and parasite treatments that >> can be added to food.
> Nope there are some oral medications but they come in pill form so you > have to pill the cats I am not sure if you can add them to food
> I used Johnson's "4 Fleas" (not sure if they're available in the US) > small pills that start killing fleas within 10 minutes of ingestion > apparently certainly my cats started to scratch at that point then we > gave them a second dose a few days later and as indoors cats they > have been flea free for the last 5 years
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