For quite a while now, I've had 3 different iPod shuffles (2 of which were gifts, another I won in a contest at work). They've worked well enough. I generally had all GD on on ipod, new (to me) music on the 2nd ipod and podcasts on the third, and if I wanted to change what I was listening to, I'd change ipods... Anyway, about a month ago, one of those ipods just up and died, and then today on my way to work, a second one gave up the ghost...
And, that's not acceptable.
So, I'm in the market for a new MP3 player: possibly another ipod, possibly something else. Anyone got any recommendations for me?
Will a non-ipod MP3 player play nice with iTunes? Or will I just have to drag and drop files from my computer into the removable disk?
Storage size on the player is not a huge concern, as I have no problem loading up new tunes/shows on a daily or semi-daily basis, but obviously the more it could potentially store, the better. I'd probably be interested in actually having a display on this player, and I'm interested in a player than can store multiple playlists.
Anyway, that's about it. I'll take my answer off the air. Thanks.
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:53:38 -0800 (PST), Andrew <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>For quite a while now, I've had 3 different iPod shuffles (2 of which >were gifts, another I won in a contest at work). They've worked well >enough. I generally had all GD on on ipod, new (to me) music on the >2nd ipod and podcasts on the third, and if I wanted to change what I >was listening to, I'd change ipods... Anyway, about a month ago, one >of those ipods just up and died, and then today on my way to work, a >second one gave up the ghost...
>And, that's not acceptable.
>So, I'm in the market for a new MP3 player: possibly another ipod, >possibly something else. Anyone got any recommendations for me?
>Will a non-ipod MP3 player play nice with iTunes? Or will I just have >to drag and drop files from my computer into the removable disk?
iTunes only works with iPods. There are plenty of other media managers that can talk to other MP3 players and import from iTunes if you decide to go that route.
I use an iPhone and don't have experience with other MP3 players so that's all I've got for you. Make sure whatever you pick supports gapless playback.
>Storage size on the player is not a huge concern, as I have no problem >loading up new tunes/shows on a daily or semi-daily basis, but >obviously the more it could potentially store, the better. I'd >probably be interested in actually having a display on this player, >and I'm interested in a player than can store multiple playlists.
>Anyway, that's about it. I'll take my answer off the air. Thanks.
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> For quite a while now, I've had 3 different iPod shuffles (2 of which > were gifts, another I won in a contest at work). They've worked well > enough. I generally had all GD on on ipod, new (to me) music on the > 2nd ipod and podcasts on the third, and if I wanted to change what I > was listening to, I'd change ipods... Anyway, about a month ago, one > of those ipods just up and died, and then today on my way to work, a > second one gave up the ghost...
> And, that's not acceptable.
> So, I'm in the market for a new MP3 player: possibly another ipod, > possibly something else. Anyone got any recommendations for me?
> Will a non-ipod MP3 player play nice with iTunes? Or will I just have > to drag and drop files from my computer into the removable disk?
> Storage size on the player is not a huge concern, as I have no problem > loading up new tunes/shows on a daily or semi-daily basis, but > obviously the more it could potentially store, the better. I'd > probably be interested in actually having a display on this player, > and I'm interested in a player than can store multiple playlists.
> Anyway, that's about it. I'll take my answer off the air. Thanks.
Why the shuffles? You have no choice or screen with a shuffle.
If you get an iPod with a screen, you could choose what you want to listen to at any point. You can select : music>artist>grateful dead, make sure "shuffle" is on, and you will just hear your dead catalog. If you don't like to mix dead & other music, you can uncheck any given song to remove it from the shuffle mode.
You can also select by genre, album, etc. as well as creating playlists of specific songs. If you have only owned shuffles, you haven't really done the iPod thing.
I also keep my photos on there, as well as address book & appt. calendar.
As a point of reference, my wife, while working for Toshiba, had a couple free Gigabytes (their attempt at an mp3 player). they were totally frustrating, and we never used them. I'd rather pay for an iPod than use a free Gigabyte.
On Nov 5, 4:27 pm, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 4:53 pm, Andrew <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > For quite a while now, I've had 3 different iPod shuffles (2 of which > > were gifts, another I won in a contest at work). > Why the shuffles? You have no choice or screen with a shuffle.
Generally, when you receive a gift or win an item in a contest, you don't exactly always have a choice as to what you receive... Eh?
> If you get an iPod with a screen, you could choose what you want to > listen to at any point. You can select : music>artist>grateful dead, > make sure "shuffle" is on, and you will just hear your dead catalog. > If you don't like to mix dead & other music, you can uncheck any given > song to remove it from the shuffle mode.
> You can also select by genre, album, etc. as well as creating > playlists of specific songs. If you have only owned shuffles, you > haven't really done the iPod thing.
All of which shows up in iTunes and are easily transferrable to even a shuffle, so I'm pretty sure I understand "the iPod thing"...
I may well end up just getting an iPod, but was wondering if there are other mp3 players that may be more or less equal to the iPod without the extra Apple marketing tax...
On Nov 5, 2:09 pm, Brad Greer <jjh110...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I use an iPhone and don't have experience with other MP3 players so > that's all I've got for you.
Yeah, I'd sorta like to just skip right to the iPhone instead and consolidate, especially since my work will pay for it, but I administer a Blackberry server for about 20 users or so who refuse to give up their Blackberries, so I've got to stick with the Blackberry to be able to monitor that...
I am one of the 0.2% who uses a Microsoft Zune. I have a Zune 120GB, and a 32GB Zune HD. I have an iPhone, but don't use it as a player, I just don't like iTunes. I have been a Mac user for years, as the digital pre-press industry was predominantly driven by Macs. A word of advise, or more of an aside really: Never buy the first build of anything made by Apple.
Essentially I am one of those weirdos who inexplicably flipped from Mac to PC. I'm pretty sure it is my reaction to Apple's marketing... and the feeling I get just walking into an Apple store, sort of like I'm expecting to be offered some sort of Scientology intake. For reasons which may or may not be rational, I don't like iPods and yes, I have owned a couple.
I am extremely happy with the Zune. The one thing I would change if I could would be a device that did not rely on proprietary software to drive the stupid thing.
If you are looking for a device that does not need a software package to run it I reccomend looking into players manufactured by Creative Labs. I like the ability to just plug it into a USB port, and drag and drop files like a portable drive. I have owned the Creative Zen, and the only complaint I had about the player was storage capacity- hence the Zune 120. The Zune HD was a gift, and I find 32GB a bit light for what I like. I test drove a Creative X-Fi, and I thought the sound was great.
If you were me, your primary concern is storage space. Figure out how much music you like to carry around, and go from there. I also listen to the radio, so I factored that variable into my selection. I am not sure if Apple is manufacturing iPods with FM receivers yet. Both Zune and Creative bundle the radio feature by default. My Zune HD also goes one step better with HD radio built in, I am hoping that one day, that feature will be a plus somehow.
My first player was Creative's Zen Sleek a 20gb hard drive unit. I really like it, I like the screen and interface better than both my iphone (for music, I'm talking about!) and my ipod classic 120gb. It also has an fm tuner.
I'm also very happy with using itunes on both the iphone and on the ipod.
The Creative unit absolutely does not take a back seat to the Apple stuff that I have . . . to me.
I don't jailbreak my players, I just run 'em out of the box, so I don't play flacs.
My smallest capacity player is the 16gb iphone, so I don't have any experience with shuffles.
In my limited experience with these 3 players, they all work fine, I don't spend much time thinking or worrying about the player, I just listen to music.
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:14:37 -0800 (PST), Andrew <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 5, 2:09 pm, Brad Greer <jjh110...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I use an iPhone and don't have experience with other MP3 players so >> that's all I've got for you.
>Yeah, I'd sorta like to just skip right to the iPhone instead and >consolidate, especially since my work will pay for it, but I >administer a Blackberry server for about 20 users or so who refuse to >give up their Blackberries, so I've got to stick with the Blackberry >to be able to monitor that...
It's a no-brainer then. Have the company buy you the iPhone (32 GB model) and hold on to your Blackberry. You can switch the SIMM card from the iPhone to the Blackberry when you need to test the BES.
> > On Nov 5, 4:53 pm, Andrew <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > For quite a while now, I've had 3 different iPod shuffles (2 of which > > > were gifts, another I won in a contest at work). > On Nov 5, 4:27 pm, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote: > > Why the shuffles? You have no choice or screen with a shuffle.
> Generally, when you receive a gift or win an item in a contest, you > don't exactly always have a choice as to what you receive... Eh?
> > If you get an iPod with a screen, you could choose what you want to > > listen to at any point. You can select : music>artist>grateful dead, > > make sure "shuffle" is on, and you will just hear your dead catalog. > > If you don't like to mix dead & other music, you can uncheck any given > > song to remove it from the shuffle mode.
> > You can also select by genre, album, etc. as well as creating > > playlists of specific songs. If you have only owned shuffles, you > > haven't really done the iPod thing.
> All of which shows up in iTunes and are easily transferrable to even a > shuffle, so I'm pretty sure I understand "the iPod thing"...
I'm not sure you do.
Seeing it in iTunes does not give you a choice to elect hearing it when you are away from iTunes, if I understand the Shuffle (I have never owned one).
With my iPod, as the mood strikes, I can listen to just Dead or just Phil & Friends just by selecting the artist, and just play his cuts. You can't do that with an iPod shuffle, no matter what you're doing in iTunes, right?
As I understand it, on a Shuffle, you are limited to only one option, which is the random shuffle of all songs on that player. You have the choice to skip to the next random song, but can't choose any particular song, or playlist, right?
> I may well end up just getting an iPod, but was wondering if there are > other mp3 players that may be more or less equal to the iPod without > the extra Apple marketing tax...
Someone recently pointed out how differently Microsoft and Apple are viewed in terms of being powerful corporations. Apple's image is much more benign and warm & fuzzy, whereas Microsoft has few friends for its brand.
But I think part of it is just design friendliness; people love Apple because the design of many of the products is so excellent and easy to work. By contrast, Microsoft is always rushing things to market in a virtually beta state and minimizing the horrendous effrot it takes to keep up with their software.
> Storage size on the player is not a huge concern, as I have no problem > loading up new tunes/shows on a daily or semi-daily basis, but > obviously the more it could potentially store, the better. I'd > probably be interested in actually having a display on this player, > and I'm interested in a player than can store multiple playlists.
> Anyway, that's about it. I'll take my answer off the air. Thanks.
I hate anything with an *I* in front of it. You get stuck in a box.
I like the Sansa Clip Plus and Sansa Fuse. Each has a slot for a Micro SDHC card so you can beef up the memory.
I use a free program Foobar 2000 to library the music. You'll need to drag / drop from Windows explorer.
Both play mp3 and FLAC. Great sound.
50-75 dollars for the player. Then $25 for a 8 GB Micro SD card.
"badabing" <the.stug...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> If you are looking for a device that does not need a software package > to run it > I reccomend looking into players manufactured by Creative Labs. > I like the ability to just plug it into a USB port, and drag and drop > files like a portable drive. I have owned the Creative Zen, and the > only complaint I had about > the player was storage capacity- hence the Zune 120. The Zune HD was a > gift, > and I find 32GB a bit light for what I like. I test drove a Creative > X-Fi, and I thought > the sound was great.
Agreed 100%. Creative basically invented the hard drive mp3 player and kept improving it until the iPlod killed them. Now they don't make anything larger than 32 gig, far too small for my needs. Best part of Creative's products is you can use dedicated software or just use Windows Explorer and drag & drop, very easy and no forced BS like iTunes. I just bought an Infiniti G37x with an iPod interface. Toying with the idea of buying a 180 gig iPod and putting Rockbox firmware on it though I'm not sure if it would then interface with the Infiniti. The car also has a Compact Flash slot (max accepted 4 gig usable though) and a 10 gig built in hard drive. Neither enough to satisfy my always growing music collection. I just wish Creative would get back into the large capacity mp3 player market.
-- VJ -Who among us has not dreamed of faraway places and intertwined lovers?
Unfortunately, Apple switched out D>A chips with a cheaper brand, and the result is a noticeably poorer sounding product. The good news is that most people don't notice. But I'm betting that most folks in here will. I gave the new one to my wife and kept my 5.5. :-)
The best player is Cowon's iAudio, but they don't make the 60GB ones anymore. Sad, because they truly do have the best sound out of all of them. I have 2 of them right now, and they're starting to get stubborn on me.
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