Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, and marvel at how special Jerry is. There's all those incredible guitar players, those myriad beasts worthy of the highest praise, and . . . well, there's Jerry.
Them that don't know what I mean never will. Those who do, no explanation is necessary. I speak to the latter.
Let us have a moment or ten of reflection on the matter.
< . . . 7, 8, 9, 10>
Ok, the bit that kicked of this current bit of effusion is JGB 8/15/84, Middletown New York, a community college.
Jerry. Workingman's Dead in theory and practice. Priceless.
I've waxed on about the glories of the 11th, 12th, and 13th, as they are as good as it gets. This is the night after those. I'm not even through the first set and I just might declare this better than those. Mercy.
This tour from 7/31 through 8/18 is simply dazzling. After my experience with those killer shows mentioned, I went to the first two nights of the tour, thinking whatever they were, they couldn't be as flat out fiery brilliant as that 11-13 run, since, well, they're the beginning of the tour.
I'm not sure I was correct in that assessment, and now this 15th show. As it goes on it just gets better and better, which means it's all as good as that first hit I took on the 11th. Then came the bit with the 12th and 13th, and, well, with the 15th, it's quite a week, Jer.
This one, it's just strands of gold and silver, endlessly weaved into each and every tune, to the point where you get so locked into it you forget the last tune they played, and, sometimes, the tune they are playing right now.
It's Jerry as apotheosis, Platonic wonder of the from, the bar, as it were. And the besterest part of all is that there's endless examples of this truth, slathered across the years, enough to please everyone, regardless of their pet era/s.
Which brings us back to the crux:
Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, and marvel at how special Jerry is.
On Nov 4, 1:39 am, Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > and marvel at how special Jerry is. There's all those incredible > guitar players, those myriad beasts worthy of the highest praise, > and . . . well, there's Jerry. > It's Jerry as apotheosis, Platonic wonder of the from, the bar, as it > were. And the besterest part of all is that there's endless examples > of this truth, slathered across the years, enough to please everyone, > regardless of their pet era/s.
> Which brings us back to the crux:
> Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
On Nov 4, 1:39 am, Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Which brings us back to the crux:
> Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> Fred
I agree, of coursk*. And I do that almost every time I listen to the man, except I don't collect myself. Very nice homage to Mr. Garcia. Are those shows on Dick's Picks or where can I obtain them, if the collective You would be so kind? Thanks, Fred. *not a typo; Popeye talk.
Lfh wrote: > Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > and marvel at how special Jerry is. There's all those incredible > guitar players, those myriad beasts worthy of the highest praise, > and . . . well, there's Jerry.
> Them that don't know what I mean never will. Those who do, no > explanation is necessary. I speak to the latter.
> Let us have a moment or ten of reflection on the matter.
> < . . . 7, 8, 9, 10>
> Ok, the bit that kicked of this current bit of effusion is JGB > 8/15/84, Middletown New York, a community college.
> Jerry. Workingman's Dead in theory and practice. Priceless.
> I've waxed on about the glories of the 11th, 12th, and 13th, as they > are as good as it gets. This is the night after those. I'm not even > through the first set and I just might declare this better than those. > Mercy.
> This tour from 7/31 through 8/18 is simply dazzling. After my > experience with those killer shows mentioned, I went to the first two > nights of the tour, thinking whatever they were, they couldn't be as > flat out fiery brilliant as that 11-13 run, since, well, they're the > beginning of the tour.
> I'm not sure I was correct in that assessment, and now this 15th show. > As it goes on it just gets better and better, which means it's all as > good as that first hit I took on the 11th. Then came the bit with the > 12th and 13th, and, well, with the 15th, it's quite a week, Jer.
> This one, it's just strands of gold and silver, endlessly weaved into > each and every tune, to the point where you get so locked into it you > forget the last tune they played, and, sometimes, the tune they are > playing right now.
> It's Jerry as apotheosis, Platonic wonder of the from, the bar, as it > were. And the besterest part of all is that there's endless examples > of this truth, slathered across the years, enough to please everyone, > regardless of their pet era/s.
> Which brings us back to the crux:
> Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
I dunno. I guess I've decided I'm more of a John Kahn head...
On Nov 4, 2:39 am, Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This tour from 7/31 through 8/18 is simply dazzling. After my > experience with those killer shows mentioned, I went to the first two > nights of the tour, thinking whatever they were, they couldn't be as > flat out fiery brilliant as that 11-13 run, since, well, they're the > beginning of the tour.
> I'm not sure I was correct in that assessment, and now this 15th show. > As it goes on it just gets better and better, which means it's all as > good as that first hit I took on the 11th. Then came the bit with the > 12th and 13th, and, well, with the 15th, it's quite a week, Jer.
The 7/31 through 8/18 shows are covered in the following torrents on bt.etree. Unfortunately, Parts 4 and 5 aren't currently being seeded (Part 3's got one seeder). I'm going to put in the proper ISO this evening, but if anyone here can step up to help, that would be great!!
> On Nov 4, 2:39 am, Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > This tour from 7/31 through 8/18 is simply dazzling. After my > > experience with those killer shows mentioned, I went to the first two > > nights of the tour, thinking whatever they were, they couldn't be as > > flat out fiery brilliant as that 11-13 run, since, well, they're the > > beginning of the tour.
> > I'm not sure I was correct in that assessment, and now this 15th show. > > As it goes on it just gets better and better, which means it's all as > > good as that first hit I took on the 11th. Then came the bit with the > > 12th and 13th, and, well, with the 15th, it's quite a week, Jer.
> The 7/31 through 8/18 shows are covered in the following torrents on > bt.etree. Unfortunately, Parts 4 and 5 aren't currently being seeded > (Part 3's got one seeder). I'm going to put in the proper ISO this > evening, but if anyone here can step up to help, that would be great!!
> >Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > >and marvel at how special Jerry is. There's all those incredible > >guitar players, those myriad beasts worthy of the highest praise, > >and . . . well, there's Jerry.
> >Them that don't know what I mean never will. Those who do, no > >explanation is necessary. I speak to the latter.
> >Let us have a moment or ten of reflection on the matter.
> >< . . . 7, 8, 9, 10>
> >Ok, the bit that kicked of this current bit of effusion is JGB > >8/15/84, Middletown New York, a community college.
> >Jerry. Workingman's Dead in theory and practice. Priceless.
> >I've waxed on about the glories of the 11th, 12th, and 13th, as they > >are as good as it gets. This is the night after those. I'm not even > >through the first set and I just might declare this better than those. > >Mercy.
> >This tour from 7/31 through 8/18 is simply dazzling. After my > >experience with those killer shows mentioned, I went to the first two > >nights of the tour, thinking whatever they were, they couldn't be as > >flat out fiery brilliant as that 11-13 run, since, well, they're the > >beginning of the tour.
> >I'm not sure I was correct in that assessment, and now this 15th show. > >As it goes on it just gets better and better, which means it's all as > >good as that first hit I took on the 11th. Then came the bit with the > >12th and 13th, and, well, with the 15th, it's quite a week, Jer.
> >This one, it's just strands of gold and silver, endlessly weaved into > >each and every tune, to the point where you get so locked into it you > >forget the last tune they played, and, sometimes, the tune they are > >playing right now.
> >It's Jerry as apotheosis, Platonic wonder of the from, the bar, as it > >were. And the besterest part of all is that there's endless examples > >of this truth, slathered across the years, enough to please everyone, > >regardless of their pet era/s.
> >Which brings us back to the crux:
> >Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > >and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> >Fred
> Kind of a long winded way to say "Jerry Garcia's silence is > deafening"...
Good summation, my friend. And it certainly is, we would all agree.
> >Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > >and marvel at how special Jerry is. There's all those incredible > >guitar players, those myriad beasts worthy of the highest praise, > >and . . . well, there's Jerry.
> >Them that don't know what I mean never will. Those who do, no > >explanation is necessary. I speak to the latter.
> >Let us have a moment or ten of reflection on the matter.
> >< . . . 7, 8, 9, 10>
> >Ok, the bit that kicked of this current bit of effusion is JGB > >8/15/84, Middletown New York, a community college.
> >Jerry. Workingman's Dead in theory and practice. Priceless.
> >I've waxed on about the glories of the 11th, 12th, and 13th, as they > >are as good as it gets. This is the night after those. I'm not even > >through the first set and I just might declare this better than those. > >Mercy.
> >This tour from 7/31 through 8/18 is simply dazzling. After my > >experience with those killer shows mentioned, I went to the first two > >nights of the tour, thinking whatever they were, they couldn't be as > >flat out fiery brilliant as that 11-13 run, since, well, they're the > >beginning of the tour.
> >I'm not sure I was correct in that assessment, and now this 15th show. > >As it goes on it just gets better and better, which means it's all as > >good as that first hit I took on the 11th. Then came the bit with the > >12th and 13th, and, well, with the 15th, it's quite a week, Jer.
> >This one, it's just strands of gold and silver, endlessly weaved into > >each and every tune, to the point where you get so locked into it you > >forget the last tune they played, and, sometimes, the tune they are > >playing right now.
> >It's Jerry as apotheosis, Platonic wonder of the from, the bar, as it > >were. And the besterest part of all is that there's endless examples > >of this truth, slathered across the years, enough to please everyone, > >regardless of their pet era/s.
> >Which brings us back to the crux:
> >Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > >and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> >Fred
> Kind of a long winded way to say "Jerry Garcia's silence is > deafening"...
> On Nov 4, 10:36 am, DG <nos...@nospam.nospammmm> wrote:
> > Lfh wrote:
> > >Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > > >and marvel at how special Jerry is. There's all those incredible > > >guitar players, those myriad beasts worthy of the highest praise, > > >and . . . well, there's Jerry.
> > >Them that don't know what I mean never will. Those who do, no > > >explanation is necessary. I speak to the latter.
> > >Let us have a moment or ten of reflection on the matter.
> > >< . . . 7, 8, 9, 10>
> > >Ok, the bit that kicked of this current bit of effusion is JGB > > >8/15/84, Middletown New York, a community college.
> > >Jerry. Workingman's Dead in theory and practice. Priceless.
> > >I've waxed on about the glories of the 11th, 12th, and 13th, as they > > >are as good as it gets. This is the night after those. I'm not even > > >through the first set and I just might declare this better than those. > > >Mercy.
> > >This tour from 7/31 through 8/18 is simply dazzling. After my > > >experience with those killer shows mentioned, I went to the first two > > >nights of the tour, thinking whatever they were, they couldn't be as > > >flat out fiery brilliant as that 11-13 run, since, well, they're the > > >beginning of the tour.
> > >I'm not sure I was correct in that assessment, and now this 15th show. > > >As it goes on it just gets better and better, which means it's all as > > >good as that first hit I took on the 11th. Then came the bit with the > > >12th and 13th, and, well, with the 15th, it's quite a week, Jer.
> > >This one, it's just strands of gold and silver, endlessly weaved into > > >each and every tune, to the point where you get so locked into it you > > >forget the last tune they played, and, sometimes, the tune they are > > >playing right now.
> > >It's Jerry as apotheosis, Platonic wonder of the from, the bar, as it > > >were. And the besterest part of all is that there's endless examples > > >of this truth, slathered across the years, enough to please everyone, > > >regardless of their pet era/s.
> > >Which brings us back to the crux:
> > >Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > > >and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> > >Fred
> > Kind of a long winded way to say "Jerry Garcia's silence is > > deafening"...
> The 7/31 through 8/18 shows are covered in the following torrents on > bt.etree. Unfortunately, Parts 4 and 5 aren't currently being seeded > (Part 3's got one seeder). I'm going to put in the proper ISO this > evening, but if anyone here can step up to help, that would be great!!
There's now one seeder for Part 3 and one seeder for Part 4. I haven't yet been able to put in the ISO on bt.etree, my login info is on my work computer. I'll hopefully get to it this morning, but with these massive project torrents I'm sure it'll take a while before anyone's able to help.
> Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
Well yeah, sure, but if I were to do that, it would be shows from 1969 or 1973 or something like that that I would be thinking about. Not the 80s. Yeesh.
On Nov 5, 9:20 am, Neil X <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Fred wrote:
> > Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> Well yeah, sure, but if I were to do that, it would be shows from 1969 > or 1973 or something like that that I would be thinking about. Not > the 80s. Yeesh.
Well, like I said, part of the beauty of it is that there is such a windfall of wonder that there's more than enough to cater to everyone's tastes.
Your rank dismissal of the 80's stuff, however, is not one that you've ever been able to support with an articulated stance, so I suppose it would be fruitless to ask you to do so now.
> On Nov 5, 9:20 am, Neil X <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Fred wrote:
> > > Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > > > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> > Well yeah, sure, but if I were to do that, it would be shows from 1969 > > or 1973 or something like that that I would be thinking about. Not > > the 80s. Yeesh.
> Well, like I said, part of the beauty of it is that there is such a > windfall of wonder that there's more than enough to cater to > everyone's tastes.
> Your rank dismissal of the 80's stuff, however, is not one that you've > ever been able to support with an articulated stance, so I suppose it > would be fruitless to ask you to do so now.
I've articluated it more times than I can count, but nice try.
> > Your rank dismissal of the 80's stuff, however, is not one that you've > > ever been able to support with an articulated stance, so I suppose it > > would be fruitless to ask you to do so now.
> I've articluated it more times than I can count, but nice try.
Sometimes it's hard to articulate the obvious (and it can be a waste of time too), but I guess then it ain't the obvious to everybody. I haven't listened to an 80s recording in months, though I will be checking out these JGB shows Fred mentioned.
On Nov 4, 9:00 am, Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 8:49 am, Andrew <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Which brings us back to the crux:
> > > Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > > > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> > I dunno. I guess I've decided I'm more of a John Kahn head...
> Heh. I'm a Larry Campbell guy, myself.
FWIW, I've actually be on a JGB kick myself. This is probably the first time in at least a year (if not 3 or 4 years) where I've listened to multiple JGB shows straight through in the span of a week, and what is really blowing me away about his playing, after having listened to him play almost exclusively in the GD setting for the past several years, is his ability to switch back and forth between playing lead and playing rhythm, sometimes within seconds of each other, especially during the verses... As he's belting out the song, he's comping along, then in a slight pause between lines, he'll rip off a couple seconds worth of a lead before slipping back into the next line and the rhythm playing. Phenomenal...
> > > > Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > > > > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> > > Well yeah, sure, but if I were to do that, it would be shows from 1969 > > > or 1973 or something like that that I would be thinking about. Not > > > the 80s. Yeesh.
> > Well, like I said, part of the beauty of it is that there is such a > > windfall of wonder that there's more than enough to cater to > > everyone's tastes.
> > Your rank dismissal of the 80's stuff, however, is not one that you've > > ever been able to support with an articulated stance, so I suppose it > > would be fruitless to ask you to do so now.
> I've articluated it more times than I can count, but nice try.
You have? Must've missed them. Could you point to any of these numerous times? All I can recall is you mentioning stuff like Scratchie's inane mot about them "reinventing themselves as a hard rock band," and some hit an run stuff about "generic" whatever and ragging on JGB while failing to support said "argument" with any substantive details. I recall nothing of substance regarding Jerry's guitar playing.
What, specifically is lacking in Jerry's guitar playing from before his health issues came to the fore, (which I posit as being 85, with the first noticeable dip in energy in his playing)?
> On Nov 4, 9:00 am, Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 8:49 am, Andrew <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Which brings us back to the crux:
> > > > Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > > > > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> > > I dunno. I guess I've decided I'm more of a John Kahn head...
> > Heh. I'm a Larry Campbell guy, myself.
> FWIW, I've actually be on a JGB kick myself. This is probably the > first time in at least a year (if not 3 or 4 years) where I've > listened to multiple JGB shows straight through in the span of a week, > and what is really blowing me away about his playing, after having > listened to him play almost exclusively in the GD setting for the past > several years, is his ability to switch back and forth between playing > lead and playing rhythm, sometimes within seconds of each other, > especially during the verses... As he's belting out the song, he's > comping along, then in a slight pause between lines, he'll rip off a > couple seconds worth of a lead before slipping back into the next line > and the rhythm playing. Phenomenal...
Absolutely. I was just tripping on this (again) yesterday. I call it the connective tissue of the tune, and he is simply amazing. I also love to listen to his backing during Melvin's solos, as he is such a tasteful rhythm player and just delightfully nuanced in those little twists and turns he throws in there. This nuance is something that is easy to overlook, but it's something I adore about his playing.
What shows are you listening to, and have you heard any of the ones from this 8/84 tour I'm raving about?
On Nov 5, 2:28 pm, "3jane." <q3j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Your rank dismissal of the 80's stuff, however, is not one that you've > > > ever been able to support with an articulated stance, so I suppose it > > > would be fruitless to ask you to do so now.
> > I've articluated it more times than I can count, but nice try.
> Sometimes it's hard to articulate the obvious (and it can be a waste > of time too), but I guess then it ain't the obvious to everybody.
I must be one of the ones it ain't obvious to, because I don't even know what you are referring to. Might you please be a little more specific?
> I haven't listened to an 80s recording in months, though I will be > checking out these JGB shows Fred mentioned.
I would like to hear what you think of them when you do.
> On Nov 5, 2:06 pm, Neil X <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > > > > > and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> > > > Well yeah, sure, but if I were to do that, it would be shows from 1969 > > > > or 1973 or something like that that I would be thinking about. Not > > > > the 80s. Yeesh.
> > > Well, like I said, part of the beauty of it is that there is such a > > > windfall of wonder that there's more than enough to cater to > > > everyone's tastes.
> > > Your rank dismissal of the 80's stuff, however, is not one that you've > > > ever been able to support with an articulated stance, so I suppose it > > > would be fruitless to ask you to do so now.
> > I've articluated it more times than I can count, but nice try.
> You have? Must've missed them. Could you point to any of these > numerous times? All I can recall is you mentioning stuff like > Scratchie's inane mot about them "reinventing themselves as a hard > rock band," and some hit an run stuff about "generic" whatever and > ragging on JGB while failing to support said "argument" with any > substantive details. I recall nothing of substance regarding Jerry's > guitar playing.
> What, specifically is lacking in Jerry's guitar playing from before > his health issues came to the fore, (which I posit as being 85, with > the first noticeable dip in energy in his playing)?
You can go ahead and google it yourself, if you really care. There's no shortage of it. Really. Many of my comments were direct responses to you, so you really ought to remember. But it's not really that you haven'r read this before, it's more that you just want to keep arguing about it. Ain't gonna happen, with me at least. You're beyond rationial discourse when it comes to 83 and 84 Dead.
The crux of the matter of 80s Dead for me is contained in the following response to one of your posts a few years back. The 80s Dead mostly lacks exactly what was present in spades in the pre-hiatus years, and the exact thing that makes me enjoy listening to the Dead.
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That fall run really had some of the most innovative jamming that would be heard in a decade. If you don't think so, go listen to the second set of 10/27 again, they do some stuff there that they would almost never do again. The extended, organic jams of that period soon disappeared, not to really resurface until 1989. In the interim, there were individual shows where truly unique things would happen (e.g. the jam out of Space on 10/15/83, and that amazing jam after He's Gone on 5/6/81), but the free flowing spontaneous creativity that was so apparent in many of these fall '79 shows wouldn't start showing up again on a regular basis until 1989.
> Absolutely. I was just tripping on this (again) yesterday. I call it > the connective tissue of the tune, and he is simply amazing. I also > love to listen to his backing during Melvin's solos, as he is such a > tasteful rhythm player and just delightfully nuanced in those little > twists and turns he throws in there. This nuance is something that is > easy to overlook, but it's something I adore about his playing.
It is not easy to overlook for me. Many years of listening to JGB have led me to believe that Garcia was actually a better ryhthm guitar player than Bob Weir.
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:20:50 -0800 (PST), Neil X <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Fred wrote:
>> Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, >> and marvel at how special Jerry is.
>Well yeah, sure, but if I were to do that, it would be shows from 1969 >or 1973 or something like that that I would be thinking about. Not >the 80s. Yeesh.
>Peace, >Neil X.
I'm gonna have to disagree with this. While the '80s certainly were inferior in the jamming department, Jerry's in-song soloing was at tis peak. Songs like "Jack Straw", "Sugaree", and "Deal" were orders of magnitude better in the post-hiatus period. Listen to the first disk of the "Go To Nassau" set and tell me Jerry wasn't at the top of his game. -- ~ Seth Jackson
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:36:04 -0800 (PST), "3jane." <q3j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Absolutely. I was just tripping on this (again) yesterday. I call it >> the connective tissue of the tune, and he is simply amazing. I also >> love to listen to his backing during Melvin's solos, as he is such a >> tasteful rhythm player and just delightfully nuanced in those little >> twists and turns he throws in there. This nuance is something that is >> easy to overlook, but it's something I adore about his playing.
>It is not easy to overlook for me. Many years of listening to JGB >have led me to believe that Garcia was actually a better ryhthm guitar >player than Bob Weir.
Maybe as a conventional rhythm player, but Bobby's role in the Grateful Dead was not as conventional rhythm player. He was just exactly perfect for the role.
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:20:50 -0800 (PST), Neil X <nei...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
> >> Fred wrote:
> >> Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back, take a breath, collect yourself, > >> and marvel at how special Jerry is.
> >Well yeah, sure, but if I were to do that, it would be shows from 1969 > >or 1973 or something like that that I would be thinking about. Not > >the 80s. Yeesh.
> >Peace, > >Neil X.
> I'm gonna have to disagree with this. While the '80s certainly were > inferior in the jamming department, Jerry's in-song soloing was at tis > peak. Songs like "Jack Straw", "Sugaree", and "Deal" were orders of > magnitude better in the post-hiatus period. Listen to the first disk > of the "Go To Nassau" set and tell me Jerry wasn't at the top of his > game.
I'm not sure I agree with the premise, but even if I grant it as true, the licks getting played in the middle of a song have always been less interesting to me than their extended improvised explorations.
But I'm really not inclined to argue this point, for the umpteenth time. I just get irritated when folks like Fred make manifestly untrue statements in the guise of "reasonableness." His accusation that I dislike early 80s GD for reasons that I will not and have not repeatedly described is a crock of shit.
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:36:04 -0800 (PST), "3jane." <q3j...@yahoo.com> > wrote:
> >> Absolutely. I was just tripping on this (again) yesterday. I call it > >> the connective tissue of the tune, and he is simply amazing. I also > >> love to listen to his backing during Melvin's solos, as he is such a > >> tasteful rhythm player and just delightfully nuanced in those little > >> twists and turns he throws in there. This nuance is something that is > >> easy to overlook, but it's something I adore about his playing.
> >It is not easy to overlook for me. Many years of listening to JGB > >have led me to believe that Garcia was actually a better ryhthm guitar > >player than Bob Weir.
> Maybe as a conventional rhythm player, but Bobby's role in the > Grateful Dead was not as conventional rhythm player. He was just > exactly perfect for the role.
IIRC when they were briefly considering firing Weir, one of the reasons was that Weir's rhythm playing was so pecuilier that Jerry was forced to play the conventional rhythm parts in addition to the solos.
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