in 1948 the UN votes on a resolution to create the State of Israel
The Arabs tell the UN to go fuck themselves and pour their armies into the new state from 5 sides. The UN does nothing
In 1950, the UN finally acts , but in a nation where there was no resolution. They send an Army, which was really the US Army, to Korea. Why was it not the Russian Army or the Chinese
Why did they allow the Arabs to piss and defecate on their resolution but used military force where they had no resolution defied.
On Nov 4, 6:35 am, ansermetniac <ansermetniac(AT)hotmail.com> wrote:
> in 1948 the UN votes on a resolution to create the State of Israel
You can blame a fair share of the Palestine/Israel problem on the British, who promised the land of Palestine to both the Jews and the Arabs during World War I, for aid in fighting the Ottoman Empire. It's the "Promised (by the Brits) Land" for the Arabs too!
The Jewish god is claimed in myth as promising Canaan to the Jews, but there were already people living there. The Hebrew god then started his people on a course of genocide against the indigenous peoples.
> The Arabs tell the UN to go fuck themselves and pour their armies into > the new state from 5 sides. The UN does nothing
Did the Israelis need help? Their own terrorists did a pretty good job of blowing up things like the King David Hotel.
> In 1950, the UN finally acts , but in a nation where there was no > resolution. They send an Army, which was really the US Army, to Korea. > Why was it not the Russian Army or the Chinese
You should be able to answer that yourself. Russia, China, and North Korea were all Communist regimes. They wouldn't fight their own kind. Do you recall any wars between Commie regimes, except when one was trying to secede from the other and had a boundary dispute, as with Caucasian (not American!) Georgia.
> Why did they allow the Arabs to piss and defecate on their resolution > but used military force where they had no resolution defied.
> "History is lies agreed upon"
> Napolean
There is a legend that NapoleOn prepared a proclamation "declaring a Jewish state in Palestine" during the siege of Acre in 1799, but did not issue it after Acre did not fall.
> "Ward Hardman believes and repaets those lies"
I gave you quotes from Truman's memoirs, quoting may be "repaeting," but it doesn't imply belief in the *truth* of the quote, just in the accuracy of the attribution.
Have you been reading Daniel J. Goldhagen's new book "Worse Than War - Genocide, Eliminationism, and the Ongoing Assault on Humanity"?
"Harry Truman, the thirty-third president of the United States, was a mass murderer. He twice ordered nuclear bombs dropped on Japanese cities. The first, a atomic bomb, exploded ove Hiroshima on August 6, 1945, and the second, a nuclear bomb, detonated over Nagasaki on August 9. Truman knew that each would kill thousands of Japanese civilians who had no direct bearing on any military operation, and who posed no immediate threat to Americans. In effect, Truman chose to snuff out the lives of approximately 300,000 men, women, and children. ... It is hard to understand how any right-thinking person could fail to call slaughtering unthreatening Japanese MASS MURDER."
[I find his distinction between "atomic" and "nuclear" bombs odd. The first bomb was an enriched uranium device and the second a plutonium bomb. The usual distinction is between "nuclear" and "thermonuclear" (hydrogen) bombs.]
"For many people, especially Americans, it just *feels* wrong, and offensive, to speak of Truman in the same breath as Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zhedong, and Pol Pot. Why? The latter four killers were certifiable monsters. ... When one looks at Truman, one sees an otherwise conventional man who committed monstrous deeds."
[Truman may have been unnerved by the heavy "kamikaze" losses incurred by US Navy vessels at Okinawa, and assumed that all Japanese would resist as fanatically.]
"The difficulty of keeping distinct the three tasks of definition, explanation, and moral evaluation muddles considerations of mass murder. ... We can, as a matter of fact, call Truman's annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki mass murder and the man a mass murderer, putting Truman and his deeds in the same broad categories of Hitler and the Holocaust, Stalin and the gulag, Pol Pot, Mao, Saddam Hussein, and Slobodan Milosevic and their victims, without giving the same explanation for Truman's actions as we do for theirs, and without judging them morally as being equivalent."
The policy of scrupulous avoidance of injury to innocent noncombatants is impractical, because it gives rise to the use of "hostage shields." An example of this is the Al Qaeda loading a woman and a child into an SUV in which terrorist leaders will be ferried around. To my mind, bombing or strafing the SUV and collaterally killing the hostages can be justified by blaming their deaths on the hostage takers. Once this policy becomes known, hostage taking should come to an end. I have mentioned this in discussions of remotely controlled unmanned aircraft.
I haven't gotten very far into Goldhagen's book (597 pages get you to the Notes!). He also discusses "eliminationism," which may take in Israel's confiscatory "settlements" in West Bank Palestinian areas. It will be interesting to see whether he can handle that issue even- handedly.
Anyone interested in all the facets of "The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb" can get an excellent exposition of the facts and issues in Gar Alperovitz's 1995 book by that title (Vintage Books). (668 pages get you to the Appendix. ;-)
--Ward Hardman
"The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology." - H.L. Mencken
<ward.hard...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Nov 4, 6:35 am, ansermetniac <ansermetniac(AT)hotmail.com> wrote: >> in 1948 the UN votes on a resolution to create the State of Israel
>You can blame a fair share of the Palestine/Israel problem on the >British, who promised the land of Palestine to both the Jews and the >Arabs during World War I, for aid in fighting the Ottoman Empire. >It's the "Promised (by the Brits) Land" for the Arabs too!
>The Jewish god is claimed in myth as promising Canaan to the Jews, >but there were already people living there. The Hebrew god then >started his people on a course of genocide against the indigenous >peoples.
>> The Arabs tell the UN to go fuck themselves and pour their armies into >> the new state from 5 sides. The UN does nothing
>Did the Israelis need help? Their own terrorists did a pretty good >job >of blowing up things like the King David Hotel.
>> In 1950, the UN finally acts , but in a nation where there was no >> resolution. They send an Army, which was really the US Army, to Korea. >> Why was it not the Russian Army or the Chinese
>You should be able to answer that yourself. Russia, China, and North >Korea were all Communist regimes. They wouldn't fight their own kind. >Do you recall any wars between Commie regimes, except when one was >trying to secede from the other and had a boundary dispute, as with >Caucasian (not American!) Georgia.
>> Why did they allow the Arabs to piss and defecate on their resolution >> but used military force where they had no resolution defied.
>> "History is lies agreed upon"
>> Napolean
>There is a legend that NapoleOn prepared a proclamation "declaring a >Jewish state in Palestine" during the siege of Acre in 1799, but did >not issue it after Acre did not fall.
>> "Ward Hardman believes and repaets those lies"
>I gave you quotes from Truman's memoirs, quoting may be "repaeting," >but it doesn't imply belief in the *truth* of the quote, just in the >accuracy of the attribution.
>Have you been reading Daniel J. Goldhagen's new book "Worse Than War - >Genocide, Eliminationism, and the Ongoing Assault on Humanity"?
> "Harry Truman, the thirty-third president of the United States, was > a mass murderer. He twice ordered nuclear bombs dropped on Japanese > cities. The first, a atomic bomb, exploded ove Hiroshima on > August 6, 1945, and the second, a nuclear bomb, detonated over > Nagasaki on August 9. Truman knew that each would kill thousands of > Japanese civilians who had no direct bearing on any military > operation, and who posed no immediate threat to Americans. In > effect, Truman chose to snuff out the lives of approximately > 300,000 men, women, and children. ... It is hard to understand how > any right-thinking person could fail to call slaughtering > unthreatening Japanese MASS MURDER."
> [I find his distinction between "atomic" and "nuclear" bombs odd. > The first bomb was an enriched uranium device and the second a > plutonium bomb. The usual distinction is between "nuclear" and > "thermonuclear" (hydrogen) bombs.]
> "For many people, especially Americans, it just *feels* wrong, and > offensive, to speak of Truman in the same breath as Hitler, Joseph > Stalin, Mao Zhedong, and Pol Pot. Why? The latter four killers were > certifiable monsters. ... When one looks at Truman, one sees an > otherwise conventional man who committed monstrous deeds."
> [Truman may have been unnerved by the heavy "kamikaze" losses > incurred by US Navy vessels at Okinawa, and assumed that all > Japanese would resist as fanatically.]
> "The difficulty of keeping distinct the three tasks of definition, > explanation, and moral evaluation muddles considerations of mass > murder. ... We can, as a matter of fact, call Truman's annihilation > of Hiroshima and Nagasaki mass murder and the man a mass murderer, > putting Truman and his deeds in the same broad categories of > Hitler and the Holocaust, Stalin and the gulag, Pol Pot, Mao, > Saddam Hussein, and Slobodan Milosevic and their victims, without > giving the same explanation for Truman's actions as we do for >theirs, > and without judging them morally as being equivalent."
>The policy of scrupulous avoidance of injury to innocent noncombatants >is impractical, because it gives rise to the use of "hostage shields." >An example of this is the Al Qaeda loading a woman and a child into an >SUV in which terrorist leaders will be ferried around. To my mind, >bombing or strafing the SUV and collaterally killing the hostages can >be justified by blaming their deaths on the hostage takers. Once this >policy becomes known, hostage taking should come to an end. I have >mentioned this in discussions of remotely controlled unmanned >aircraft.
>I haven't gotten very far into Goldhagen's book (597 pages get you to >the Notes!). He also discusses "eliminationism," which may take in >Israel's confiscatory "settlements" in West Bank Palestinian areas. >It will be interesting to see whether he can handle that issue even- >handedly.
>Anyone interested in all the facets of "The Decision to Use the Atomic >Bomb" can get an excellent exposition of the facts and issues in Gar >Alperovitz's 1995 book by that title (Vintage Books). (668 pages get >you to the Appendix. ;-)
>--Ward Hardman
> "The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, > just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology." > - H.L. Mencken
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On Nov 5, 10:29 pm, the "RMCReep" troll, posing as a FAKE "Ward Hardman" and posting from the email address "ward.hardmanI(AT)gmail.com" and the ip address "88.208.236.35" wrote:
> Jeff, I apologize [snip]
This troll is a FAKE "Ward Hardman" posting out of
inetnum: 88.208.236.0 - 88.208.236.255 netname: FASTHOSTS-UK-NETWORK descr: UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester descr: England country: GB
The REAL "Ward Hardman" posts from the USA.
(And he's not a bloody pervert like "RMCReep." ;-)
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Ward Hardman keeps his poop in the icetray in the freezer and licks it when his wife is in the can. Ward Hardman keeps a little bag of ripe turds in his car to sniff at the lights.
From: "Ward Hardman keeps his poop in the icetray in the freezer and licks it when his wife is in the can. Ward Hardman keeps a little bag of ripe turds in his car to sniff at the lights." <hugefuk...@hotmail.com>
> On Nov 5, 10:29 pm, the "RMCReep" troll, posing as > a FAKE "Ward Hardman" and posting from the email address > "ward.hardmanI(AT)gmail.com" and the ip address > "88.208.236.35" wrote:
> > Jeff, I apologize [snip]
> This troll is a FAKE "Ward Hardman" posting out of
> inetnum: 88.208.236.0 - 88.208.236.255 > netname: FASTHOSTS-UK-NETWORK > descr: UK's largest web hosting company based in > Gloucester > descr: England > country: GB
> The REAL "Ward Hardman" posts from the USA.
> (And he's not a bloody pervert like "RMCReep." ;-)
Proxies will make it look like you're posting from anywhere. Wardy is a Tardy so he doesn't understand this. He doesn't understand why Mrs Hardman won't share his bed since she found him rubbing turds into his groin that horrible December day,