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Kirk McElhearn  
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From: Kirk McElhearn <kir...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:08:53 +0100
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Subject: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
20 disc set for $17.98:

http://tinyurl.com/yfrr6tb

Seems to be a lot out there - are these Amazon mistakes or Haenssler
mistakes? Or are they loss-leaders?

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Date: 06 Nov 2009 21:56:02 GMT
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
Kirk McElhearn <kir...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4af48255$0$956$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr:

> 20 disc set for $17.98:

> http://tinyurl.com/yfrr6tb

> Seems to be a lot out there - are these Amazon mistakes or
> Haenssler mistakes? Or are they loss-leaders?

Most likely none of the above.  How about, er, "bargains"?  The concept of 20 CDs'
worth of Schuricht as a loss-leader, incidentally, is hilarious (assuming that you
know what a loss-leader is).  They lure you in with cheap Schuricht to induce you to
buy what?  The 200-disc Heinrich von Hirngespinst edition at full price?

AC


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From: Paul Goldstein <pgold...@newsguy.com>
Date: 6 Nov 2009 15:16:01 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
In article <Xns9CBBAC432FC93amcooperoptonline...@209.197.15.254>, Alan Cooper
says...

Kurt Woess Gesamtausgabe.

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From: Bob Harper <bob.har...@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:41:22 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
Kirk McElhearn wrote:
> 20 disc set for $17.98:

> http://tinyurl.com/yfrr6tb

> Seems to be a lot out there - are these Amazon mistakes or Haenssler
> mistakes? Or are they loss-leaders?

> Kirk

I hope it's only the samples, and not the tracks, that are confused. On
discs 8 and 9 (the Bruckner 8th and 9th, as it happens), we have the
following:

Disc 8, Track 2 is labeled as 8/ii; it's actually 8/iii
   "  8,   "   3 is labeled as 8/iii; it's actually 9/i
   "  8,   "   4 is labeled as 8/iv; it's actually 9/ii
   "  9,   "   1 is labeled as 9/i; it's actually 9/iii
   "  9,   "   2 is labeled as 9/ii; it's actually 8/ii
   "  9,   "   3 is labeled as 9/iii; it's actually 8/iv

Are these 256 or 320 KB MP3s? There's enough good music-making here that
it might well be worth it.

Bob Harper


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Steve de Mena  
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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:17:42 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

Kirk McElhearn wrote:
> 20 disc set for $17.98:

> http://tinyurl.com/yfrr6tb

> Seems to be a lot out there - are these Amazon mistakes or Haenssler
> mistakes? Or are they loss-leaders?

> Kirk

Thanks Kirk!  Keep them coming.

Steve


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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:18:52 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

Alan Cooper wrote:
> Kirk McElhearn <kir...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:4af48255$0$956$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr:

>> 20 disc set for $17.98:

>> http://tinyurl.com/yfrr6tb

>> Seems to be a lot out there - are these Amazon mistakes or
>> Haenssler mistakes? Or are they loss-leaders?

> Most likely none of the above.  How about, er, "bargains"?  The concept of 20 CDs'
> worth of Schuricht as a loss-leader, incidentally, is hilarious (assuming that you
> know what a loss-leader is).  They lure you in with cheap Schuricht to induce you to
> buy what?  

Anything else they sell that has a higher margin.

This was an obvious mistake though.

Steve


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From: Simon Roberts <s...@comcast.net>
Date: 6 Nov 2009 19:02:36 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
In article <Eu2Jm.166379$Jp1.154...@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com>, Bob Harper
says...

That's the least of it.  The last two discs are supposed to be Mahler 2 and
Haydn 86, but what amazon's downloader dumped on my hard drive instead is 9
tracks of jazz....  (The same's true of the samples on amazon's site.) Still a
bargain, though (especially if they respond to my inquiry by correcting the
mistake).

Did anyone download the right tracks on those discs?

Simon


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From: GP49 <gpoo...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:40:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
On Nov 6, 12:08 pm, Kirk McElhearn <kir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 20 disc set for $17.98:

> http://tinyurl.com/yfrr6tb

> Seems to be a lot out there - are these Amazon mistakes or Haenssler
> mistakes? Or are they loss-leaders?

======================================

I hope the downloads for Discs 19 and 20 don't have the same error
that Amazon made on their sample audio clips for those discs!


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From: "Dan Fowler" <dfow...@austin.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:40:50 -0600
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
I got the jazz tracks for the last two disks also. I've also emailed them
about the mistake.

Dan

"Simon Roberts" <s...@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:hd2o0c01dcg@drn.newsguy.com...


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:55:16 +0100
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

Steve de Mena wrote:

> This was an obvious mistake though.

> Steve

So why asking Kirk to keep them coming?

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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:02:46 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

Simon Roberts wrote:
> That's the least of it.  The last two discs are supposed to be Mahler 2 and
> Haydn 86, but what amazon's downloader dumped on my hard drive instead is 9
> tracks of jazz....  (The same's true of the samples on amazon's site.) Still a
> bargain, though (especially if they respond to my inquiry by correcting the
> mistake).

> Did anyone download the right tracks on those discs?

> Simon

I got 148 files, 2.23 GB.   Looking at the file names, the last disk
appears to be Disk 20 and include the last movement of Mahler 2 and
Haydn 86.

Steve


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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:07:14 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

The file names were correct but the audio content is jazz, alas...

Steve


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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:08:36 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

Gerard wrote:
> Steve de Mena wrote:

>> This was an obvious mistake though.

>> Steve

> So why asking Kirk to keep them coming?

I don't understand.   What does the one comment have to do with the other?

Steve


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:39:04 +0100
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

Steve de Mena wrote:
> Gerard wrote:
> > Steve de Mena wrote:

> > > This was an obvious mistake though.

> > > Steve

> > So why asking Kirk to keep them coming?

> I don't understand.   What does the one comment have to do with the
> other?

> Steve

You say "This was an obvious mistake though". He comes with one mistake after
another.
And you ask him to keep them coming. My question was: "why?"
What's difficult to understand?

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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:46:32 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

I still don't understand.

I told him to "keep them coming", meaning I appreciate hearing about
these pricing errors so I can TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM.   I posted
elsewhere my feeling that these prices "were an obvious mistake" and
not a "loss leader", a "sale", or some legitimate markdown.

Steve


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:55:05 +0100
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

So you have answered my question without understanding it.
(i.e. you want to take advantage of obvious mistakes)


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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:39:17 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

YES.

I'm glad I cleared this up for you.

Steve


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Date: 7 Nov 2009 05:31:48 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on
In article <7b088671-758b-4447-a7f2-d6fac14ba...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
GP49 says...

>On Nov 6, 12:08=A0pm, Kirk McElhearn <kir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 20 disc set for $17.98:

>> http://tinyurl.com/yfrr6tb

>> Seems to be a lot out there - are these Amazon mistakes or Haenssler
>> mistakes? Or are they loss-leaders?

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>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

>I hope the downloads for Discs 19 and 20 don't have the same error
>that Amazon made on their sample audio clips for those discs!

They do - see my earlier post.

Simon


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From: Simon Roberts <s...@comcast.net>
Date: 7 Nov 2009 05:50:31 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
In article <OaWdndpp7eMvt2jXnZ2dnUVZ_hFi4...@giganews.com>, Steve de Mena
says...

I emailed Amazon about the mistake (asking if they could fix the wrong tracks)
before I went to bed last night and when I got up this morning their reply was
awaiting me, telling me they had refunded my entire purchase price! I hadn't
asked for any sort of refund; I guess it's easier for them to do that rather
than fix the mistake.  Anyway, I thought, OK, I'll buy the mp3s for the separate
release of Mahler 2/Haydn 86 (Hertha Toepper and lousy brass playing in Urlicht
notwithstanding - you can hear the whole thing at rhapsody), which costs the
same as the entire Schuricht box.  But when I tried the audio samples for *that*
I discovered they're exactly the same as for the big box, so presumably it's the
same mistake there, too; so I guess I'll buy it from emusic or rhapsody.

Unlike Gielen's Mahler set, Amazon haven't corrected the price for Schuricht's.

Simon


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:24:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler
On Nov 7, 1:50 pm, Simon Roberts <s...@comcast.net> wrote:

Here is the correct Mahler/Haydn download link:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000X7QY3C/

(They have two versions of this 2-disc set, of which one is jazz, the
other correct.)


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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:32:57 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

Ludwig wrote:
>> Unlike Gielen's Mahler set, Amazon haven't corrected the price for Schuricht's.

>> Simon

> Here is the correct Mahler/Haydn download link:
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000X7QY3C/

> (They have two versions of this 2-disc set, of which one is jazz, the
> other correct.)

Thank you.

Steve


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Date: 7 Nov 2009 06:46:24 -0800
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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on
In article <a0277ca1-c128-4387-99f9-b20120650...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Ludwig says...

>Here is the correct Mahler/Haydn download link:
>http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000X7QY3C/

>(They have two versions of this 2-disc set, of which one is jazz, the
>other correct.)

Thanks!

Simon


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Subject: Re: Another Amazon.com MP3 bargain: Carl Schurict edition on Haenssler

I wound up calling Amazon, with the same result Simon had. I've got the
Haydn 86 on CD, so I think I'll just do without the Mahler 2 :)

Bob Harper


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From: Ludwig <fromgoogle.1.ludwig...@spamgourmet.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:13:10 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Carl Schuricht edition on Haenssler: booklets online
On Nov 6, 8:08 pm, Kirk McElhearn <kir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 20 disc set for $17.98:

> http://tinyurl.com/yfrr6tb

> Seems to be a lot out there - are theseAmazonmistakes or Haenssler
> mistakes? Or are they loss-leaders?

> Kirk
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Those who took advantage of this offer while it was still available
may like to know that the booklets can be read online free of charge
at the web retailer http://www.micmacmusic.com : for example,
http://www.micmacmusic.com/product_info.php?products_id=603 (click on
"Click here to browse booklet") has the booklet for the Reznicek/
Strauss/Pfitzner/Reger volume, complete with recording dates,
information about the music, etc. The rest can be brought up by a
search for Schuricht.

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From: Simon Roberts <s...@comcast.net>
Date: 19 Nov 2009 13:20:09 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 5:20 am
Subject: Re: Carl Schuricht edition on Haenssler: booklets online
In article <2557f18b-e71f-4334-8916-cb85a0dbc...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Ludwig says...

>Those who took advantage of this offer while it was still available
>may like to know that the booklets can be read online free of charge
>at the web retailer http://www.micmacmusic.com : for example,
>http://www.micmacmusic.com/product_info.php?products_id=3D603 (click on
>"Click here to browse booklet") has the booklet for the Reznicek/
>Strauss/Pfitzner/Reger volume, complete with recording dates,
>information about the music, etc. The rest can be brought up by a
>search for Schuricht.

Thanks, Ludwig!

Simon


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