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Al Eisner  
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 More options Oct 27, 5:46 am
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From: Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:46:36 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 5:46 am
Subject: Re: What the???

I first clicked on this today, and found a price of $195.49, discounted
from $215.90.  Since the original posts didn't mention the source of
the astonishment, I was a bit puzzled, but the current price isn't bad.
(Not that I'd know how to deal with such a large collection.)
--

                                                              Al Eisner


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From: Dontaitchic...@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:11:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: What the???
On Oct 26, 4:46 pm, Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:

  Check back to the beginning of this thread, if you can. The source
of the astonishment was that volume I (88 CDs) was offered for
something like $28.95 or a price very similar. Based upon what's been
posted here, Amazon caught the error and changed things.

  Don Tait


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William Sommerwerck  
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From: "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:25:59 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 6:25 am
Subject: Re: What the???

> I first clicked on this today, and found a price of $195.49, discounted
> from $215.90. Since the original posts didn't mention the source of
> the astonishment, I was a bit puzzled, but the current price isn't bad.

This isn't a particular good price. About a year ago (?) I bought V1 for
about $130, V2 for $115. I'd hold off, and look for deals.

> (Not that I'd know how to deal with such a large collection.)

It doesn't take up that much shelf space. <grin>

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From: "wagnerfan" <wagner...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:41:55 -0400
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Subject: Re: What the???
<Dontaitchic...@aol.com> wrote in message

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On Oct 26, 4:46 pm, Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:

  Check back to the beginning of this thread, if you can. The source
of the astonishment was that volume I (88 CDs) was offered for
something like $28.95 or a price very similar. Based upon what's been
posted here, Amazon caught the error and changed things.

  Don Tait

It looks like they are charging me the intial price of 28.00   Wagner Fan


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Al Eisner  
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From: Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:44:21 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 6:44 am
Subject: Re: What the???

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Dontaitchic...@aol.com wrote:
>> I first clicked on this today, and found a price of $195.49, discounted
>> from $215.90. ÿÿSince the original posts didn't mention the source of
>> the astonishment, I was a bit puzzled, but the current price isn't bad.
>> (Not that I'd know how to deal with such a large collection.)

>  Check back to the beginning of this thread, if you can. The source
> of the astonishment was that volume I (88 CDs) was offered for
> something like $28.95 or a price very similar. Based upon what's been
> posted here, Amazon caught the error and changed things.

I know, but the first few posts didn't mention that price, just the link.


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From: Dontaitchic...@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:49:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: What the???
On Oct 26, 5:41 pm, "wagnerfan" <wagner...@comcast.net> wrote:

 [et cetera]

> Check back to the beginning of this thread, if you can. The source
> of the astonishment was that volume I (88 CDs) was offered for
> something like $28.95 or a price very similar. Based upon what's been
> posted here, Amazon caught the error and changed things.

> Don Tait

> It looks like they are charging me the intial price of 28.00 Wagner Fan

  You seem to have gotten there in time and to have lucked out. For
sure. Congratulations!

  Don Tait


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wagnerfan  
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From: "wagnerfan" <wagner...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:55:07 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 6:55 am
Subject: Re: What the???
Well that sure is how it is set up in my account- I haven't actually been
charged yet so I'm not opening the champagne till I know for sure!!!!
thanks for the good wishes though -I also was able to get the big
Fischer-Dieskau set for an absurdly cheap price when that had the wrong
price - you have to jump on them tout suite!!!!   Wagner fan

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On Oct 26, 5:41 pm, "wagnerfan" <wagner...@comcast.net> wrote:

 [et cetera]

> Check back to the beginning of this thread, if you can. The source
> of the astonishment was that volume I (88 CDs) was offered for
> something like $28.95 or a price very similar. Based upon what's been
> posted here, Amazon caught the error and changed things.

> Don Tait

> It looks like they are charging me the intial price of 28.00 Wagner Fan

  You seem to have gotten there in time and to have lucked out. For
sure. Congratulations!

  Don Tait


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Gregor Frowein  
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 More options Oct 27, 6:56 am
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From: Gregor Frowein <Frowein.Gre...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:56:41 +0100
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 6:56 am
Subject: Re: What the???

The special offer looked like that:

http://www.gmx.de/mc/PY2t8SyWpF0BfcDnQ9GSIvc2f2OJpe

("GMX Media Center starten")

Gruß
Gregor


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Dil  
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 More options Oct 27, 7:52 am
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From: Dil <grobberst...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:52:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 7:52 am
Subject: Re: What the???
On Oct 26, 5:25 pm, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> > I first clicked on this today, and found a price of $195.49, discounted
> > from $215.90. Since the original posts didn't mention the source of
> > the astonishment, I was a bit puzzled, but the current price isn't bad.

> This isn't a particular good price. About a year ago (?) I bought V1 for
> about $130, V2 for $115. I'd hold off, and look for deals.

I also purchased volume I about a year ago for $112 from an online
source recommended here by Marc P (I believe it was Tower online).

I think I'll hold off on the vocal box as I have everything there
except HvK's Lohengrin, Missa Solemnins, and Don Carlos (I think).

> > (Not that I'd know how to deal with such a large collection.)

I just think they should have made the box with rounded corners:-)

But seriously, there are some wonderful performances in there
including: a wonderful Pictures AAE, Bruckner 4&7, All the
Tchaikovsky, Sibelius, a great 1947 Beethoven 9th,  some wonderful
J.Strauss waltzes, etc.

Dil.


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 More options Oct 27, 12:46 pm
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:46:45 -0700 (PDT)
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Prince Myshkin  
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 More options Oct 27, 6:03 pm
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From: Prince Myshkin <pbho...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:03:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: What the???
On Oct 26, 5:46 pm, Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:

The listed price at the time of my original post was $27.97.  Using
the free shipping, the grand total for me was $29.65 (Amazon factors
in KY state tax).

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Frank Berger  
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 More options Oct 28, 2:00 am
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From: "Frank Berger" <frank.d.ber...@dal.frb.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:00:48 -0500
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 2:00 am
Subject: Re: What the???

Mine was the 6th post in the thread and I did mention the price, but you're
right that the earlier posts didn't.

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Matthew Silverstein  
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 More options Oct 28, 1:18 pm
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From: Matthew Silverstein <msilverz-l...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:18:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: What the???

On Friday, October 23, 2009, Simon Roberts wrote:
> This isn't bad either:

> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TIO4Z0/ref=pd_1ctyhuc__gc_rec_03_02

> Short term mistakes?

Maybe so, but Amazon just shipped my 70-CD set of Callas' complete studio
recordings and charged me $23.97. That's about $0.35/disc--not bad!

Matty


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 More options Oct 28, 1:34 pm
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:34:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 1:34 pm
Subject: Re: What the???
On Oct 27, 10:18 pm, Matthew Silverstein <msilverz-l...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> On Friday, October 23, 2009, Simon Roberts wrote:
> > This isn't bad either:

> >http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TIO4Z0/ref=pd_1ctyhuc__gc_rec_03_02

> > Short term mistakes?

> Maybe so, but Amazon just shipped my 70-CD set of Callas' complete studio
> recordings and charged me $23.97. That's about $0.35/disc--not bad!

> Matty

At that price even I would be tempted by that box. I say "even I"
because after all these years of being enthralled by her singing, I've
found only minimal interest in her studio output. So much of it is
either too far past her prime or somehow not as compelling to me as
her live performances. There are exceptions of course, and naturally I
haven't heard many of these recordings...I hope you report back on
your favorites as you work through the set.

--Jeff


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From: SG <sgg...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:04:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 2:04 am
Subject: Re: What the???

Many thanks to "Prince M." and to (future) Sir Simon.

I have received BOTH boxes at the small price - this is indeed the
deal of the century so far.

Incidentally, broadly speaking, I've always preferred the EMI Karajan
over the DG (not that demarcation is entirely consistent, of course!),
so now I've got most of the Karajan I ever wanted and wouldn't have
bought just because I would spend on other conductors first.

Regarding the Callas set, some controversial transfers apart, it's
still a fantastic treasure trove. Callas' Norma - what a joy. Even if
particular arias are sang "better" in some ways by Caballe - and
better in any respect (no kidding) by Anita Cerquetti, one of the most
underrated great Italian singers - Callas' character development is
possibly unmatched.

Fifty bucks for BOTH of these? Who's the loser who said the dollar is
going to s**t? Oh, sorry, it must have been me.

regards,
SG


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Prince Myshkin  
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From: Prince Myshkin <pbho...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:27:47 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 3:27 am
Subject: Re: What the???
On Nov 2, 1:04 pm, SG <sgg...@gmail.com> wrote:

You're welcome. I'm still awaiting mine, but Amazon sent me an update
to let me know that I should get it sooner than originally expected.
I better start thinking about where I'm going to put it . . .

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From: "wagnerfan" <wagner...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:14:28 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 4:14 am
Subject: Re: What the???
"Prince Myshkin" <pbho...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 2, 1:04 pm, SG <sgg...@gmail.com> wrote:

You're welcome. I'm still awaiting mine, but Amazon sent me an update
to let me know that I should get it sooner than originally expected.
I better start thinking about where I'm going to put it . . .

Yes I received word that Amazon was shipping the EMI Karajan box and I was
charged the 27.00!!!!  Wagner Fan


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Bill Anderson  
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From: Bill Anderson <willem.ander...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:42:46 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: What the???
On Oct 26, 4:41 pm, "wagnerfan" <wagner...@comcast.net> wrote:

> It looks like they are charging me the intial price of 28.00   Wagner Fan

Same here - and no shipping costs ( just received the box this
afternoon)

- Bill


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Prince Myshkin  
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From: Prince Myshkin <pbho...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:14:04 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: What the???
On Nov 2, 11:42 pm, Bill Anderson <willem.ander...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Oct 26, 4:41 pm, "wagnerfan" <wagner...@comcast.net> wrote:

> > It looks like they are charging me the intial price of 28.00   Wagner Fan

> Same here - and no shipping costs ( just received the box this
> afternoon)

> - Bill

Dang! I wish mine would ship out!

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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:45:54 -0600
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Subject: Re: What the???
Bill Anderson <willem.ander...@comcast.net> wrote in news:a262f37e-a972-
45f8-861a-8f3ca6c20...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> On Oct 26, 4:41 pm, "wagnerfan" <wagner...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> It looks like they are charging me the intial price of 28.00   Wagner F
> an

> Same here - and no shipping costs ( just received the box this
> afternoon)

> - Bill

Ditto.  Glad to see the box isn't quite as big as I was afraid it would
be....  Now to find time to listen to it all!  (All I've heard so far is
half the first disc, featuring some very engaging Johann Strauss with the
shortly-post-WWII VPO.)

Simon


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Discussion subject changed to "Karajan EMI box (was What the???)" by Bill Anderson
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From: Bill Anderson <willem.ander...@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:55:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 10:55 pm
Subject: Karajan EMI box (was What the???)
On Nov 3, 2:45 pm, Simon Roberts <s...@comcast.net> wrote:

All I've heard so far is  half the first disc, featuring some very
engaging Johann Strauss with the shortly-post-WWII VPO.

Hi Simon -

Those early Strauss recordings are quite satisfying. And, there is
interesting story behind them.

I have a tape of an interview with the recording engineer Anthony
Griffith, reminiscing on his long career. Griffith worked those
sessions, and remembered that Karajan at first could not get the right
rhythm or flow of the waltzes. A member of the VPO (first cellist
maybe?) took Karajan aside to help him get the feel of these pieces.
Haven’t played the tape in years – I need to hear it again, great
stories regarding Karajan, Beecham, Furtwangler and others.

I have just started sampling the box. Listening to the 1960 Sibelius 5
right now (very good!)  I did notice a printing error in the booklet –
The first 3 movements of the Bartok Concerto for Orchestra from disc
47 are not listed on page 38. A minor point.  This a very impressive
set.

- Bill


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From: mark <markstenr...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:28:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 11:28 pm
Subject: Re: What the???
I find it laughable that some would avoid this set even at $28. C'mon,
people! These two boxes are littered with fabulous performances. What
matter if you already have most of them on CD somewhere else? Do as I
did and give away the old CDs to friends and family. The savings in
shelf space alone is worth the price.

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Discussion subject changed to "(A contents list for) Karajan EMI box (was What the???)" by Steve Emerson
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From: Steve Emerson <eme...@n-n-nospamsonic.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:16:25 -0700
Local: Sat, Nov 14 2009 7:16 am
Subject: Re: (A contents list for) Karajan EMI box (was What the???)
Perhaps of use to those who, like me, have spent time fumbling through
the brittle little booklet trying to find, e.g., which of the 88 CDs has
that other performance of Brahms 2, Bartok CFO etc. -- I've uploaded a
list where the contents are sorted by composer. This is meant to be used
with the booklet; only a couple of dates are included. Also, see note at
bottom of document, re: a few composers who are only sketchily
represented.

Editable, RTF format:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2mz5tezmhzn/KarajanBoxContents.rtf

PDF:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mzyn0v0g5jm/KarajanBoxContents.pdf

SE.


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