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Beldin the Sorcerer

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From: "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>

Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:30:30 -0500

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Subject: Re: A simple question regarding pot size

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"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> If there's 450 chips in the pot and the bet is 150 to you, how big is the
> pot regardless of whether or not you intend to call or raise in a NL game?

You can't answer the question.

If you're calling on a draw, it's a 150 call with a chance to win the 450.

If you're raising on a steal, it's a X% chance to steal 450 - a
100-x%*(actual chance to win) chance at the 'big pot' if you get called.

If you're ahead and raise to shut the pot down, it's a 600 chip pot you're
protecting by raising the rest of your stack.

If the rest of your stack is 3000, he'll need to call 3000 to win 3600

It's REALLY important to look at it that way if you're raising way ahead, to
see what kind of odds you're laying.

> If there's 4,450 chips in the pot and the bet is 4,150 to you, how big is
> the pot regardless of whether or not you intend to call or raise in a NL
> game?

Same answer, although if the stacks AREN'T deep, it matters a lot less.

If you call, you're calling about 4500 to win about 9000.
If the stacks aren't much deeper, raising doesn't matter.
If you both have 100,000+, then the pot size of about 12,500 may well
matter, and calculating it at a little less than 9000 is wrong.

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