Andy wrote: > The Problem with My Town's Storefront Advertising!.
> My town doesn't allow outward facing storefront signs.
> Even the strolling public can't get a glimpse of what they're walking past > unless it's plastered in paint on the storefront windows.
Isn't that what commercial zoning areas are for--to allow merchants to tell what and where they are? Sounds way too restrictive to me. I can see limiting the size and glitz of signs, but certainly not the existence of them. Even the strictest of historic districts allows commercial buildings to post signs although it may restrict the size and style/design.
> Andy wrote: >> The Problem with My Town's Storefront Advertising!.
>> My town doesn't allow outward facing storefront signs.
>> Even the strolling public can't get a glimpse of what they're walking >> past unless it's plastered in paint on the storefront windows.
> Isn't that what commercial zoning areas are for--to allow > merchants to tell what and where they are? Sounds way too > restrictive to me. I can see limiting the size and glitz of > signs, but certainly not the existence of them. Even the > strictest of historic districts allows commercial buildings to > post signs although it may restrict the size and style/design.
> gloria p
gloria p,
I drove past a re-developed little strip mall but didn't have time to inspect who was there.
I just noticed that it was there, is all.
Ain't smart to drop to 5 mph in a 35 mph zone to browse, is it?
Chemo the Clown wrote: > On Nov 7, 7:16 am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote: >> The Problem with My Town's Storefront Advertising!
>> I've mentioned this once or twice before.
>> My town doesn't allow outward facing storefront signs.
>> Even the strolling public can't get a glimpse of what they're walking past >> unless it's plastered in paint on the storefront windows.
>> PASSING TRAFFIC JUST DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO SAFELY BROWSE the township >> offerings.
>> No wonder the town is collapsing. Stupid township rules.
>> We should look like Vegas, a sad state of affairs, come to thing of it. :(
>> Andy
> Start a petition to change the law unless you'd rather sit back and > just bitch about it.
Exactly, too many people forget that the town (and all) government is just our employees that we hired to take care of things. They work for us..we don't work for them.
I have prepared petitions on two different occasions. Its a great way to meet people in your town.
> Chemo the Clown wrote: >> On Nov 7, 7:16 am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote: >>> The Problem with My Town's Storefront Advertising!
>>> I've mentioned this once or twice before.
>>> My town doesn't allow outward facing storefront signs.
>>> Even the strolling public can't get a glimpse of what they're >>> walking past unless it's plastered in paint on the storefront >>> windows.
>>> PASSING TRAFFIC JUST DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO SAFELY BROWSE the township >>> offerings.
>>> No wonder the town is collapsing. Stupid township rules.
>>> We should look like Vegas, a sad state of affairs, come to thing of >>> it. :(
>>> Andy
>> Start a petition to change the law unless you'd rather sit back and >> just bitch about it.
> Exactly, too many people forget that the town (and all) government is > just our employees that we hired to take care of things. They work for > us..we don't work for them.
> I have prepared petitions on two different occasions. Its a great way > to meet people in your town.
So? What did your petitions accomplish?
All the signatures in the world didn't stop the township from cutting down every shady sidewalk tree on every block. AND they claimed they'd be replaced! BUMS!!!!!!
George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > Chemo the Clown wrote: > > On Nov 7, 7:16 am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> The Problem with My Town's Storefront Advertising!
> >> I've mentioned this once or twice before.
> >> My town doesn't allow outward facing storefront signs.
> >> Even the strolling public can't get a glimpse of what they're walking past > >> unless it's plastered in paint on the storefront windows.
> >> PASSING TRAFFIC JUST DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO SAFELY BROWSE the township > >> offerings.
> >> No wonder the town is collapsing. Stupid township rules.
> >> We should look like Vegas, a sad state of affairs, come to thing of it. :(
> >> Andy
> > Start a petition to change the law unless you'd rather sit back and > > just bitch about it.
> Exactly, too many people forget that the town (and all) government is > just our employees that we hired to take care of things. They work for > us..we don't work for them.
> I have prepared petitions on two different occasions. Its a great way to > meet people in your town.
Yup. I agree. When a building wanted to put a warehouse next to the apartment building where I live, several hundred of us participated in a petition drive to deny the zoning ordinance. We bombarded the zoning commercioners with email and snail mail. When the zoning hearing was held, one of my neighbors reminded the zoning commissioners that we represent the biggest voting block in our township. Five minutes later, the zoning request was denied by a unanimous vote by all of the members of the zoning board. Instead, we got a one story office building, which is fine (no big trucks coming or going at all hours of the day and night).
> In article <hd4um6$e5...@news.eternal-september.org>, > George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Chemo the Clown wrote: >> > On Nov 7, 7:16 am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote: >> >> The Problem with My Town's Storefront Advertising!
>> >> I've mentioned this once or twice before.
>> >> My town doesn't allow outward facing storefront signs.
>> >> Even the strolling public can't get a glimpse of what they're >> >> walking past unless it's plastered in paint on the storefront >> >> windows.
>> >> PASSING TRAFFIC JUST DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO SAFELY BROWSE the >> >> township offerings.
>> >> No wonder the town is collapsing. Stupid township rules.
>> >> We should look like Vegas, a sad state of affairs, come to thing >> >> of it. :(
>> >> Andy
>> > Start a petition to change the law unless you'd rather sit back and >> > just bitch about it.
>> Exactly, too many people forget that the town (and all) government is >> just our employees that we hired to take care of things. They work >> for us..we don't work for them.
>> I have prepared petitions on two different occasions. Its a great way >> to meet people in your town.
> Yup. I agree. When a building wanted to put a warehouse next to the > apartment building where I live, several hundred of us participated in > a petition drive to deny the zoning ordinance. We bombarded the zoning > commercioners with email and snail mail. When the zoning hearing was > held, one of my neighbors reminded the zoning commissioners that we > represent the biggest voting block in our township. Five minutes > later, the zoning request was denied by a unanimous vote by all of the > members of the zoning board. Instead, we got a one story office > building, which is fine (no big trucks coming or going at all hours of > the day and night).
Stan,
Media is just so darn quaint, I have been apathetic about the issues. Darn shame on me!
Cutting down the sidewalk trees pissed me off big time! I didn't see the point in that!!! They said they'd replant but never did. -100 quaint points!!! The all-weather speakers on the lamp posts still ring out nicely/quietly through town.
PA has one redeeming quality (among a few others), is no state highways or thruways can put billboard signs on those roadways. Makes for a nicer view on your travels in or through the state! The loophole around that is big business rents nearby building rooftops to erect their advertising billboards.
I will add, the township puts their public meetings on TV so I do have an idea of what's happening, once a month. I used to attend and speak from time to time but not in many years.
Just spoke to my district councilman two weeks ago about re-painting my back road traffic lines which have faded out entirely. Nothing to report yet.
Andy wrote: > The Problem with My Town's Storefront Advertising!
> I've mentioned this once or twice before.
> My town doesn't allow outward facing storefront signs.
What good would inward facing signs do? So the owner and employees can remember where they are? ;-)
All the store signs I've ever seen are outward facing.
Perhaps you are referring to signs that stick out perpendicular to the front of the store?
> Even the strolling public can't get a glimpse of what they're walking past > unless it's plastered in paint on the storefront windows.
Okay, now I'm confused. Do you mean large signs affixed to the front of the building above the windows and doors? As opposed to the name of the store painted on the window?
> PASSING TRAFFIC JUST DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO SAFELY BROWSE the township > offerings.
Talk about passing traffic not being able to safely browse. Have you ever noticed the almost total lack of house numbers or address numbers on houses and buildings these days. I had numerous instances in my recent travels across the country where I was looking for a certain address and none of the buildings had address numbers on them. I couldn't even tell if I was in the right part of the street much less which building it was I was looking for.
There oughta be a law that all houses and building have to have there street addresses prominently displayed and large enough and clear enough to be read by passing motorists!
Okay, that was my 847th pet peeve of the day.
:-P
Kate
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> Andy wrote: >> The Problem with My Town's Storefront Advertising!
>> I've mentioned this once or twice before.
>> My town doesn't allow outward facing storefront signs.
> What good would inward facing signs do? So the owner > and employees can remember where they are? ;-)
> All the store signs I've ever seen are outward facing.
> Perhaps you are referring to signs that stick out perpendicular > to the front of the store?
Kate,
Right. just as you better described! In the past there were sidewalk trees that would block any signs anyway. But since the township cut them all down I don't know if it would still be a good idea to allow those signs. Neon from the side going up to the rooftops as far as the eye could see. That would take any remaining quaintness and throw it out the window.
>> Even the strolling public can't get a glimpse of what they're walking >> past unless it's plastered in paint on the storefront windows.
> Okay, now I'm confused. Do you mean large signs affixed to > the front of the building above the windows and doors? As opposed > to the name of the store painted on the window?
>> PASSING TRAFFIC JUST DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO SAFELY BROWSE the township >> offerings.
> Talk about passing traffic not being able to safely browse. > Have you ever noticed the almost total lack of house numbers > or address numbers on houses and buildings these days. I had > numerous instances in my recent travels across the country where > I was looking for a certain address and none of the buildings > had address numbers on them. I couldn't even tell if I was in > the right part of the street much less which building it was I > was looking for.
> There oughta be a law that all houses and building have to have > there street addresses prominently displayed and large enough > and clear enough to be read by passing motorists!
Our streets have curbside mailboxes and they have to be numbered plainly and kept clean and painted or replaced if need be.
In Los Angeles, we had sidewalks and the city would come by maybe once a year and stencil spraypaint our address numbers on the curb. That might have better served the police, fire and medics more than the public. I dunno.
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