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Melba's Jammin'  
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 7:00 am
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
From: Melba's Jammin' <barbschal...@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:00:26 -0600
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 7:00 am
Subject: Re: Making half-sour pickles
In article <he6isi$k...@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "l, not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> I made them using the recipe below; they are in a 2 quart bowl, covered with
> a disposable plastic bowl cover (think shower cap) to keep "stuff" out, but
> not sealed air-tight.  Room temp is about 72F.   When might I expect to see
> evidence of fermentation, if ever?

(snip most of recipe)

> Cover loosely with a paper towel, do not seal. Let sit out on the counter
> for 3 to 4 days. You want to see the little bubbles form, this means your
> half sour pickles are fermenting and the recipe is going well.

I wouldn't expect to see any fermentation for 2 or 3 days.  I would not
expect to see bubbles at 24 hours.   But I'm really just guessing.  I
love half sours but have never made them.  Wrong season here for cukes.  
:-0)

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-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Who Said Chickens Have Fingers?
10-30-2009


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Arri London  
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 More options Nov 22 2009, 10:17 am
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From: Arri London <biot...@ic.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:17:37 -0700
Local: Sun, Nov 22 2009 10:17 am
Subject: Re: Making half-sour pickles

"l, not -l" wrote:

> I came across a recipe for half-sour pickles, supposedly the kind one finds
> in deli's, and thought it would be an interesting thing to try.  They have
> been working for about 24 hours now and there are no signs of fermentation;
> I would have thought by now, I'd see bubbles in the brine.  Then again, what
> do I know; I've never made pickles before.

> I made them using the recipe below; they are in a 2 quart bowl, covered with
> a disposable plastic bowl cover (think shower cap) to keep "stuff" out, but
> not sealed air-tight.  Room temp is about 72F.   When might I expect to see
> evidence of fermentation, if ever?

Might still be a bit early. But don't use a plastic cover on the bowl.
The instructions say paper towel, but anything that lets in more air
will do. Drape a well-rinsed tea towel or a couple of layers of
cheesecloth over the bowl.


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Arri London  
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 More options Nov 24 2009, 10:11 am
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From: Arri London <biot...@ic.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:11:43 -0700
Local: Tues, Nov 24 2009 10:11 am
Subject: Re: Making half-sour pickles

"l, not -l" wrote:

> On 21-Nov-2009, Arri London <biot...@ic.ac.uk> wrote:

> > Might still be a bit early. But don't use a plastic cover on the bowl.
> > The instructions say paper towel, but anything that lets in more air
> > will do. Drape a well-rinsed tea towel or a couple of layers of
> > cheesecloth over the bowl.

> Thanks for the suggestion.   Tonight, there is evidence of fermentation,
> clusters of tiny bubbles.

There ya go! If it smells of anything but pickles, then it has gone
wrong.

It's just that most pickle/cabbage fermentations need some air exchange
to go well. Even if the plastic cover isn't airtight, guessing the
airflow is still cut off to some extent.


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Arri London  
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 More options Nov 25 2009, 9:25 am
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From: Arri London <biot...@ic.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:25:38 -0700
Local: Wed, Nov 25 2009 9:25 am
Subject: Re: Making half-sour pickles

"l, not -l" wrote:

> On 23-Nov-2009, Arri London <biot...@ic.ac.uk> wrote:

> > > Thanks for the suggestion.   Tonight, there is evidence of fermentation,
> > > clusters of tiny bubbles.

> > There ya go! If it smells of anything but pickles, then it has gone
> > wrong.

> Amazingly, they smell exactly like pickles.  8-)
> --
> Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

Oh very well done!

Since moving to the desert, most of my fermentations don't go as well as
they did in a wetter climate. Kind of explains why the local Native
Americans don't seem to have a tradition of fermented foods the way
groups in other parts of the US have.


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