sf wrote: > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:28:25 -0500, blake murphy > <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:31:50 -0800, sf wrote:
> >> On 5 Nov 2009 09:49:03 GMT, "Ravenlynne" <ravenly...@yahoo.com> > wrote: >> > > > > Packing company comes November 19th...in a way I can't wait, > > > > but I'm sad in a way...I won't really be doing any holiday > > > > cooking this year, and usually I look forward all year to that > > > > (unless I want to try to cook thanksgiving dinner in foil > > > > disposable containers.
> >> Do that! Holiday rituals mean a lot to the little ones. They > don't >> know it now, but someday they'll be telling you about how > much fun it >> was and how much they appreciate what you did. My son > is trying to >> recreate everything about his childhood for his son. > I find that a >> touching tribute.
> > i find it pretty goofy, no matter how idyllic your son's childhood > > was.
> I don't see it as goofy. I think it's pretty damned commendable for a > single dad with sole custody.
Wow I didn't know that about him...I think that's amazing!
> > In article <hcu72f0...@news3.newsguy.com>, > > "Ravenlynne" <ravenly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > sf wrote:
> > > > On 4 Nov 2009 14:27:23 GMT, "Ravenlynne" <ravenly...@yahoo.com> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > I like when people don't even bother to try to even build a > > > > > fruit basket, instead just putting a supermarket plastic bag > > > > > full of apples out.
> > > > It would be cuter in a basic brown bag with the top rolled down > > > > like a pant cuff. :)
> > > > BTW: Are you packing yet?
> > > Packing company comes November 19th...in a way I can't wait, but I'm > > > sad in a way...I won't really be doing any holiday cooking this > > > year, and usually I look forward all year to that (unless I want to > > > try to cook thanksgiving dinner in foil disposable containers.
> > Imho that'd be better than nothing? :-)
> We may be going to a friend's house...she's never cooked for > thanksgiving before so we may share duty. She says doesn't know how to > cook a turkey, and I make a magnificent one, if I do say so myself, but > don't know if I should offer to help or let her do it on her own to > gain self confidence....
I think you should help, minimally. :-) Cooking together like that and teaching a newbie is fun! I've been teaching my friend Lynn how to cook and she's taken to it like a duck to water.
She now eats healthier than she ever has in her life, and so does her family. -- Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein
Omelet wrote: > > We may be going to a friend's house...she's never cooked for > > thanksgiving before so we may share duty. She says doesn't know > > how to cook a turkey, and I make a magnificent one, if I do say so > > myself, but don't know if I should offer to help or let her do it > > on her own to gain self confidence....
> I think you should help, minimally. :-) Cooking together like that > and teaching a newbie is fun! I've been teaching my friend Lynn how > to cook and she's taken to it like a duck to water.
> She now eats healthier than she ever has in her life, and so does her > family.
She cracks me up because she doesn't know how to cook much, but her sister is a chef. It's like they're polar opposites. --
> > > We may be going to a friend's house...she's never cooked for > > > thanksgiving before so we may share duty. She says doesn't know > > > how to cook a turkey, and I make a magnificent one, if I do say so > > > myself, but don't know if I should offer to help or let her do it > > > on her own to gain self confidence....
> > I think you should help, minimally. :-) Cooking together like that > > and teaching a newbie is fun! I've been teaching my friend Lynn how > > to cook and she's taken to it like a duck to water.
> > She now eats healthier than she ever has in her life, and so does her > > family.
> She cracks me up because she doesn't know how to cook much, but her > sister is a chef. It's like they're polar opposites.
Everybody has their own loves... :-) -- Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein
> Omelet wrote: > > > We may be going to a friend's house...she's never cooked for > > > thanksgiving before so we may share duty. She says doesn't know > > > how to cook a turkey, and I make a magnificent one, if I do say so > > > myself, but don't know if I should offer to help or let her do it > > > on her own to gain self confidence....
> > I think you should help, minimally. :-) Cooking together like that > > and teaching a newbie is fun! I've been teaching my friend Lynn how > > to cook and she's taken to it like a duck to water.
> > She now eats healthier than she ever has in her life, and so does her > > family.
> She cracks me up because she doesn't know how to cook much, but her > sister is a chef. It's like they're polar opposites. > --
On 6 Nov 2009 07:05:08 GMT, "Ravenlynne" <ravenly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> She says doesn't know how to >cook a turkey, and I make a magnificent one, if I do say so myself, but >don't know if I should offer to help or let her do it on her own to >gain self confidence....
ABSOLUTELY offer to help her with that turkey! She's already told you she's terrible at it. I learned to make bread because someone came over and showed me what to look for when kneading and I learned to make pie crusts by taking a hands on class. When I was first learning how to cook, I was on the phone all the time with my SIL who was a fabulous cook (in small family to large party quantities). It *really* does help someone who lacks confidence when someone else is willing to share their knowledge and expertise with them.
-- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:28:25 -0500, blake murphy > <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:31:50 -0800, sf wrote:
>>> On 5 Nov 2009 09:49:03 GMT, "Ravenlynne" <ravenly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>Packing company comes November 19th...in a way I can't wait, but I'm >>>>sad in a way...I won't really be doing any holiday cooking this year, >>>>and usually I look forward all year to that (unless I want to try to >>>>cook thanksgiving dinner in foil disposable containers.
>>> Do that! Holiday rituals mean a lot to the little ones. They don't >>> know it now, but someday they'll be telling you about how much fun it >>> was and how much they appreciate what you did. My son is trying to >>> recreate everything about his childhood for his son. I find that a >>> touching tribute.
>>i find it pretty goofy, no matter how idyllic your son's childhood was.
> I don't see it as goofy. I think it's pretty damned commendable for a > single dad with sole custody.
i don't know about your boy, but it would be pretty hard for me to re-create my childhood. things are different now.
and when do you quit? will he try to re-create his adolescence and young adulthood also? why not let the kid forge his own life?
>>> On 5 Nov 2009 09:49:03 GMT, "Ravenlynne" <ravenly...@yahoo.com> >>> wrote:
>>> > Packing company comes November 19th...in a way I can't wait, but >>> > I'm sad in a way...I won't really be doing any holiday cooking >>> > this year, and usually I look forward all year to that (unless I >>> > want to try to cook thanksgiving dinner in foil disposable >>> > containers.
>>> Do that! Holiday rituals mean a lot to the little ones. They don't >>> know it now, but someday they'll be telling you about how much fun >>> it was and how much they appreciate what you did. My son is trying >>> to recreate everything about his childhood for his son. I find >>> that a touching tribute.
>> i find it pretty goofy, no matter how idyllic your son's childhood >> was.
>> your pal, >> blake
> Why? Maybe he has wonderful memories and wants his son to have the > same. What's wrong with that?
well, things have changed in the last however many years. and it's not for the parent to try to make a little copy of himself.
<blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote: >fOn Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:15:29 -0800, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:28:25 -0500, blake murphy >> <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:31:50 -0800, sf wrote:
>>>> On 5 Nov 2009 09:49:03 GMT, "Ravenlynne" <ravenly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>Packing company comes November 19th...in a way I can't wait, but I'm >>>>>sad in a way...I won't really be doing any holiday cooking this year, >>>>>and usually I look forward all year to that (unless I want to try to >>>>>cook thanksgiving dinner in foil disposable containers.
>>>> Do that! Holiday rituals mean a lot to the little ones. They don't >>>> know it now, but someday they'll be telling you about how much fun it >>>> was and how much they appreciate what you did. My son is trying to >>>> recreate everything about his childhood for his son. I find that a >>>> touching tribute.
>>>i find it pretty goofy, no matter how idyllic your son's childhood was.
>> I don't see it as goofy. I think it's pretty damned commendable for a >> single dad with sole custody.
>i don't know about your boy, but it would be pretty hard for me to >re-create my childhood. things are different now.
>and when do you quit? will he try to re-create his adolescence and young >adulthood also? why not let the kid forge his own life?
Oh, come on Blake... it's not that extreme.
-- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
blake murphy wrote: > > Why? Maybe he has wonderful memories and wants his son to have the > > same. What's wrong with that?
> well, things have changed in the last however many years. and it's > not for the parent to try to make a little copy of himself.
> your pal, > blake
That is ridiculous. How is sharing and continuing family traditions with your children "trying to make a little copy"? I think one of the problems with the world is that people have forgotten where they come from.
In article <yycgpe1heofh.beibdr2b4a7d....@40tude.net>, blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
> well, things have changed in the last however many years. and it's not for > the parent to try to make a little copy of himself.
Maybe he's not trying to do that. Maybe he's trying to provide some of the same things he enjoyed to his children. I mean, I suppose we could just wait around for our children to tell us what would make for great memories for them, or we could offer them things we enjoyed along with things we see that they enjoy and hope for the best.
Regards, Ranee @ Arabian Knits
"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13
> In article <yycgpe1heofh.beibdr2b4a7d....@40tude.net>, > blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > well, things have changed in the last however many years. and it's > > not for the parent to try to make a little copy of himself.
> Maybe he's not trying to do that. Maybe he's trying to provide > some of the same things he enjoyed to his children. I mean, I > suppose we could just wait around for our children to tell us what > would make for great memories for them, or we could offer them things > we enjoyed along with things we see that they enjoy and hope for the > best.
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:55:46 -0800, sf wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:29:07 -0500, blake murphy > <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>fOn Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:15:29 -0800, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:28:25 -0500, blake murphy >>> <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:31:50 -0800, sf wrote:
>>>>> On 5 Nov 2009 09:49:03 GMT, "Ravenlynne" <ravenly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Packing company comes November 19th...in a way I can't wait, but I'm >>>>>>sad in a way...I won't really be doing any holiday cooking this year, >>>>>>and usually I look forward all year to that (unless I want to try to >>>>>>cook thanksgiving dinner in foil disposable containers.
>>>>> Do that! Holiday rituals mean a lot to the little ones. They don't >>>>> know it now, but someday they'll be telling you about how much fun it >>>>> was and how much they appreciate what you did. My son is trying to >>>>> recreate everything about his childhood for his son. I find that a >>>>> touching tribute.
>>>>i find it pretty goofy, no matter how idyllic your son's childhood was.
>>> I don't see it as goofy. I think it's pretty damned commendable for a >>> single dad with sole custody.
>>i don't know about your boy, but it would be pretty hard for me to >>re-create my childhood. things are different now.
>>and when do you quit? will he try to re-create his adolescence and young >>adulthood also? why not let the kid forge his own life?
> Oh, come on Blake... it's not that extreme.
i might have been reading too much into it. my apologies.
my parents had a pretty laissez-faire approach to my kidhood. i suppose there's at least two schools of thought as to how that turned out.
>>> Bakeries? I don't go to bakeries. Most of them are too sweet. I buy >>> from a Russian bakery occasionally only because it's next door to a >>> pizza shop I frequent and their goods are decidedly not sweet.
>> sf, you're channeling Jill again. Please stop.
>> Bob > Ohmygawd.. I thought I was the only one to notice that! LOL LOL
Just because some of us aren't addicted to everything sweet or coated in chocolate doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
>>>> Bakeries? I don't go to bakeries. Most of them are too sweet. I buy >>>> from a Russian bakery occasionally only because it's next door to a >>>> pizza shop I frequent and their goods are decidedly not sweet.
>>> Bob >> Ohmygawd.. I thought I was the only one to notice that! LOL LOL
>Just because some of us aren't addicted to everything sweet or coated in >chocolate doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
I guess somebody has to keep bakeries in business. I don't and you don't, that's for sure... but why someone would talk about something w/o stating they buy it at a bakery is beyond me.
-- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.