> On Oct 3, 8:52 am, James Rau <j...@ca.thecoyotesafteryou.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:00:04 -0700 (PDT), TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> >> wrote:
>> >In "Evan Almighty", Congressman Evan Baxter is directed by God to >> >build an Ark. God arranged for the necessary wood and tools to be >> >delivered to Evan, and arranged to use Evan's funds to buy eight lots >> >so that there would be room for the Ark. The animals that arrived to >> >board the Ark helped Evan build it.
>> I would ask God why he is breaking his promise: Genesis 8: 21- 22.
> God: This time, only a small neighborhood will be flooded. A poorly > built dam will break just above this exclusive suburb.
Hampstead? Apart from the Whitestone Pond, all the water's in the valleys in Hampstead - including the red brick bridge that Turner painted when he got sick of making fancy balusters.
Baluster: A senior British lawyer who supports a handrail as pronounced by a Chnese perllson..
<david.robot.mitch...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:00:04 -0700, TB wrote: > > If God warned you of a coming flood, told you to build an Ark, and told > > you to fill it with two of each kind of animal, how would you proceed?
> I'd seek medical help from a mental health professional, as I'm too old > to believe in fairy tales.
Be that as it may, laying your current rationality to the side for puposes of actually answering the question;
if God told you build an Ark, you'd get to building. Whether there really _is_ a God or not is besides the point.
But if there isn't, then who told him to do it? Henry Kissinger?
> On Oct 3, 5:46 pm, berk <bayareab...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Oct 3, 12:22 am, David Mitchell
>> <david.robot.mitch...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:00:04 -0700, TB wrote: >> > > If God warned you of a coming flood, told you to build an Ark, and >> > > told >> > > you to fill it with two of each kind of animal, how would you >> > > proceed?
>> > I'd seek medical help from a mental health professional, as I'm too old >> > to believe in fairy tales.
>> Be that as it may, laying your current rationality to the side for >> puposes of actually answering the question;
>> if God told you build an Ark, you'd get to building. Whether there >> really _is_ a God or not is besides the point.
> To raise the necessary funds, I would set up a web site: www.ark.com > to appeal for donations.
> I would set up an Ark Blog, and make Ark tweets.
You could sell paintings of it as well if you were arktweestic enough!
> If the police tried to demolish my Ark, I would tell my bird friends > to dive bomb them.
Your bird friends are all Steven Seagulls?
Yes! Then they could make the bombs out of turpentine, wire wool and washing up liquid as well as dropping them. Mine dew, they'd have a job getting the detonators into the air - microwave ovens!
> ::: If God warned you of a coming flood, told you to build an Ark, and > ::: told you to fill it with two of each kind of animal, how would you > ::: proceed? How would you finance the Ark, and gather the needed > ::: supplies and labor force?
> How does God establish his bona-fides?
> : Whether there really _is_ a God or not is besides the point.
> No, it's exactly the point, or at least *a* point that comes > before any of the others. Why should I do what this "God" person > tells me to do? If it's "to escape the flood", then why do I think > his orders will be effective?
> ::: If the police tried to destroy your Ark, how would you stop them?
> Presuming for a moment that this "God" person has established his > trustworthiness, and I'm proceeding with the project, and also presuming > God hadn't already told me how to handle such contingencies, I'd seek > his advice. If he didn't give it in an answer in an intelligable form, > I probably *wouldn't* stop the police; it's very likely I'd be unable > to in any event. Hey, does God want this project to succeed or not?
> ::: How would you explain to the public the need to build the Ark?
> See above.
Just build the thing and if they disapprove, don't let em on it, and they'll draaaaahhn!
> On Oct 3, 7:14 pm, thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
>> ::: If the police tried to destroy your Ark, how would you stop them?
>> Presuming for a moment that this "God" person has established his >> trustworthiness, and I'm proceeding with the project, and also presuming >> God hadn't already told me how to handle such contingencies, I'd seek >> his advice. If he didn't give it in an answer in an intelligable form, >> I probably *wouldn't* stop the police; it's very likely I'd be unable >> to in any event. Hey, does God want this project to succeed or not?
> I would simply send out my lions, tigers, bears (oh my!), leopards, > cheetahs, elephants, wolves, hyenas, snakes, and other fierce looking > animals to scare off the police!
Are these the police who have guns, pepper and CS sprays, Tazers etc., etc.?
> TB wrote: >> On Oct 3, 8:52 am, James Rau <j...@ca.thecoyotesafteryou.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:00:04 -0700 (PDT), TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> >>> wrote:
>>>> In "Evan Almighty", Congressman Evan Baxter is directed by God to >>>> build an Ark. God arranged for the necessary wood and tools to be >>>> delivered to Evan, and arranged to use Evan's funds to buy eight lots >>>> so that there would be room for the Ark. The animals that arrived to >>>> board the Ark helped Evan build it. >>> I would ask God why he is breaking his promise: Genesis 8: 21- 22.
>> God: This time, only a small neighborhood will be flooded. A poorly >> built dam will break just above this exclusive suburb.
> Then why on earth would I need a freakin ark?
> A rowboat would do it, or better yet, load up the damn pets and drive to > the next neighborhood over.
> For that matter, get a big storage unit and empty the house too, so your > computer stays safe.
> Buy flood insurance so that your house isn't a loss.
What if you're on the 5th. floor like me with large spacious rooms, magnificent views fore and aft and no rent or Council Tax to pay ever again?
> On Oct 4, 8:26 am, Sir F. A. Rien <jaSP...@gbr.online.com> wrote: >> berk <bayareab...@yahoo.com> found these unused words:
>> >On Oct 3, 12:22 am, David Mitchell >> ><david.robot.mitch...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:00:04 -0700, TB wrote: >> >> > If God warned you of a coming flood, told you to build an Ark, and >> >> > told >> >> > you to fill it with two of each kind of animal, how would you >> >> > proceed?
>> >> I'd seek medical help from a mental health professional, as I'm too >> >> old >> >> to believe in fairy tales.
>> >Be that as it may, laying your current rationality to the side for >> >puposes of actually answering the question;
>> >if God told you build an Ark, you'd get to building. Whether there >> >really _is_ a God or not is besides the point.
>> Good ... GO ROB A BANK ... GOD HATH SPOKEN!
> But robbing a bank is illegal. Building an Ark is not illegal.
> On Oct 4, 1:24 pm, peachyashiepassion <exquisitepe...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> TB wrote: >> > On Oct 3, 8:52 am, James Rau <j...@ca.thecoyotesafteryou.com> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:00:04 -0700 (PDT), TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> In "Evan Almighty", Congressman Evan Baxter is directed by God to >> >>> build an Ark. God arranged for the necessary wood and tools to be >> >>> delivered to Evan, and arranged to use Evan's funds to buy eight lots >> >>> so that there would be room for the Ark. The animals that arrived to >> >>> board the Ark helped Evan build it. >> >> I would ask God why he is breaking his promise: Genesis 8: 21- 22.
>> > God: This time, only a small neighborhood will be flooded. A poorly >> > built dam will break just above this exclusive suburb.
>> Then why on earth would I need a freakin ark?
>> A rowboat would do it, or better yet, load up the damn pets and drive >> to the next neighborhood over.
>> For that matter, get a big storage unit and empty the house too, so >> your computer stays safe.
>> Buy flood insurance so that your house isn't a loss.
> On Oct 5, 9:43 am, pmfan57 <jwrag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Oct 3, 2:00 am, TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> > If God warned you of a coming flood, told you to build an Ark, and >> > told you to fill it with two of each kind of animal, how would you >> > proceed? How would you finance the Ark, and gather the needed >> > supplies and labor force?
>> > If the police tried to destroy your Ark, how would you stop them?
>> > How would you explain to the public the need to build the Ark?
>> > In "Evan Almighty", Congressman Evan Baxter is directed by God to >> > build an Ark. God arranged for the necessary wood and tools to be >> > delivered to Evan, and arranged to use Evan's funds to buy eight lots >> > so that there would be room for the Ark. The animals that arrived to >> > board the Ark helped Evan build it.
>> Right.
>> What's an Ark?
> A very big boat. Read Genesis 6:14 on forward for more details.
Hen Carter dick shunnery:
ark [aark] (plural arks) n 1. Noah's ship: the ship that, according to biblical accounts, Noah was instructed to build by God to save his family and the animals from the Flood. Also called Noah's ark 2. sanctuary: a place providing refuge 3. or ark or Ark - See Ark of the Covenant 4. or ark or Ark (plural Arks) cabinet containing Torah scrolls: a cupboard in a synagogue in which the scrolls of the Torah are kept. Also called Holy Ark
[Old English ærc , via prehistoric Germanic from Latin arca 'chest, box']
out of the ark extremely old or old-fashioned (informal)
> On Oct 5, 12:31 pm, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:10:49 -0700 (PDT), TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> >> wrote:
>> >On Oct 5, 9:43 am, pmfan57 <jwrag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Right.
>> >> What's an Ark?
>> >A very big boat. Read Genesis 6:14 on forward for more details.
>> Actually, it means a container to keep something safe. Noah's boat >> fits that description, obviously, but so does the Ark of the Covenent, >> which is not a boat.
> On Oct 6, 10:44 am, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote: >> Tim Bruening <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >> >David DeLaney wrote: >> >> Walter Bushell <pr...@panix.com> wrote: >> >> >It would have been easier, just to send a plague and give his chosen >> >> >the >> >> >antidote. But no, YAHUWAHU had to do it the sexual intercoursing >> >> >*hard* way.
>> >> Perhaps he had extra waters left over from when the waters were >> >> divided from >> >> the waters, and this was easier than continuing to carry them in >> >> inventory >> >> and having to measure them every year for tax purposes.
>> >Why would God need to pay taxes?
>> Why would HE be immune? Render unto Caesar and all that.
>> (Honestly, it's like you've never even TRIED to think about a lot of the >> stuff >> you should have learned in elementary school.)
> I don't recall anything in elementary school about God paying taxes. > In which classes would I have learned about God paying taxes?
In classes where your ankles are shekeled to the desk!!
> On Oct 7, 5:26 am, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote: >> TB <tsbru...@dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >> >d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote: >> >> Tim Bruening <tsbru...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote: >> >> >Why would God need to pay taxes?
>> >> Why would HE be immune? Render unto Caesar and all that.
>> >>(Honestly, it's like you've never even TRIED to think about a lot of >> >>the stuff >> >>you should have learned in elementary school.)
>> >I don't recall anything in elementary school about God paying taxes. >> >In which classes would I have learned about God paying taxes?
>> ...you learned about God, presumably, and you learned about taxes. That >> you >> never thought to combine the two until, presumably, 30 or so years later >> is >> not OUR fault. That you then IMMEDIATELY broadcast this lack to all and >> sundry, with a puzzled "Why should I ever have done this? You can't >> expect >> me to have made CONNECTIONS, given my past history!" air, is DEFINITELY >> not >> our fault.
> I had assumed that God, being the Supreme Being of the Universe, would > not be subject to taxes. After all, He isn't a regular human > inhabitant of any nation on Earth, so isn't subject to the tax laws of > any nation on Earth.
> How would you go about enforcing our tax laws against God in any case?
> IIRC, Jesus once told people to "render onto Caesar what is Caesar's > (taxes) and render onto God what is God's", implying that taxes are > separate from God.
Iyyyyy thought when he said, "Render onto Cæsar what is Cæsar's" he meant cement or plaster for the walls of his palace!
> How then could Christians later justify making Christianity the state > religion?
>> Today, we know that religion is so separate from common sense and >> science that there wouldn't be any confusion.
They'd justify it the same way as they justify and explain every other aspect of their religion - by telling you not to ask questions and just have faith!!!
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