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DraggonFodder  
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 More options Nov 5, 6:59 am
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From: DraggonFodder <commogu...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:59:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 6:59 am
Subject: Microsoft lays off 700 - Stock up
Cutting workers usually does cause stocks to rise.  In this case,
maybe everyone should step back and think this out.  Windows 7 just
launched.  That usually means billions in revenue... why are they
laying off so many workers.  Maybe, windows 7 isn't doing very well.
It is my understanding that the only converts to win7 are the poor
souls that bought Vista.  It is so hard to upgrade from XP that most
just won't do it.  MSFT should be falling like a rock.

DraggonFodder
just something else I can't figure out


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shortT  
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From: shortT <dev.gn...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:33:47 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Microsoft lays off 700 - Stock up
On Nov 4, 5:59 pm, DraggonFodder <commogu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cutting workers usually does cause stocks to rise.  In this case,
> maybe everyone should step back and think this out.  Windows 7 just
> launched.  That usually means billions in revenue... why are they
> laying off so many workers.  Maybe, windows 7 isn't doing very well.
> It is my understanding that the only converts to win7 are the poor
> souls that bought Vista.  It is so hard to upgrade from XP that most
> just won't do it.  MSFT should be falling like a rock.

> DraggonFodder
> just something else I can't figure out

I can see in

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shortT  
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 More options Nov 5, 7:43 am
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From: shortT <dev.gn...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:43:07 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Microsoft lays off 700 - Stock up
On Nov 4, 6:33 pm, shortT <dev.gn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 4, 5:59 pm, DraggonFodder <commogu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Cutting workers usually does cause stocks to rise.  In this case,
> > maybe everyone should step back and think this out.  Windows 7 just
> > launched.  That usually means billions in revenue... why are they
> > laying off so many workers.  Maybe, windows 7 isn't doing very well.
> > It is my understanding that the only converts to win7 are the poor
> > souls that bought Vista.  It is so hard to upgrade from XP that most
> > just won't do it.  MSFT should be falling like a rock.

> > DraggonFodder
> > just something else I can't figure out

 I can see individuals going to Windows 7 but businesses will probably
hold off
for a while. The reason being that Windows 7 does not fit well with
their existing infrastructure.
Microsoft will probably be forced to shorted the life of XP to force
people into 7.
Microsoft goes through great lengths to change the OS in such a way so
that the way things worked before no
longer apply. This way people need to be retrained.
I remember the good old days when Ctrl-Alt-Del was used to reboot your
system under MSDOS.
Then they made Ctrl-Alt-Del be the login-in sequence. No confusion
there.

shortT


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 More options Nov 5, 7:46 am
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From: Lawyerkill <Lawyerk...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:46:45 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Microsoft lays off 700 - Stock up
On Nov 4, 5:59 pm, DraggonFodder <commogu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cutting workers usually does cause stocks to rise. In this case,
> maybe everyone should step back and think this out. Windows 7 just
> launched. That usually means billions in revenue... why are they
> laying off so many workers. Maybe, windows 7 isn't doing very well.
> It is my understanding that the only converts to win7 are the poor
> souls that bought Vista. It is so hard to upgrade from XP that most
> just won't do it. MSFT should be falling like a rock.

> DraggonFodder
> just something else I can't figure out

I hope the guy that came up with the idea of Vista is at the front of
the unemployment line.

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shortT  
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 More options Nov 5, 7:53 am
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From: shortT <dev.gn...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:53:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 7:53 am
Subject: Re: Microsoft lays off 700 - Stock up
On Nov 4, 6:46 pm, Lawyerkill <Lawyerk...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Nov 4, 5:59 pm, DraggonFodder <commogu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Cutting workers usually does cause stocks to rise. In this case,
> > maybe everyone should step back and think this out. Windows 7 just
> > launched. That usually means billions in revenue... why are they
> > laying off so many workers. Maybe, windows 7 isn't doing very well.
> > It is my understanding that the only converts to win7 are the poor
> > souls that bought Vista. It is so hard to upgrade from XP that most
> > just won't do it. MSFT should be falling like a rock.

> > DraggonFodder
> > just something else I can't figure out

> I hope the guy that came up with the idea of Vista is at the front of
> the unemployment line.

It should be "Hasta la vista" to him.

shortT


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John Galt  
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 More options Nov 5, 1:03 pm
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From: John Galt <kady...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:03:50 +0000
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Subject: Re: Microsoft lays off 700 - Stock up

DraggonFodder wrote:
> Cutting workers usually does cause stocks to rise.  In this case,
> maybe everyone should step back and think this out.  Windows 7 just
> launched.  That usually means billions in revenue... why are they
> laying off so many workers.  Maybe, windows 7 isn't doing very well.
> It is my understanding that the only converts to win7 are the poor
> souls that bought Vista.  It is so hard to upgrade from XP that most
> just won't do it.  MSFT should be falling like a rock.

> DraggonFodder
> just something else I can't figure out

The problem MSFT tends to have is getting businesses to upgrade. Vista
and 7, from what I can tell, innovate in the "Apple" direction -- making
Windows a more multimedia-friendly environment to attract new generation
power users. Businesses can't see why they should take on the time,
expense, and risk of upgrading (and that means hardware, too) just to
add features that they don't use.

My company has frozen on XP, and the next version of our corporate
platform will be on Linux, which I'm running now, and which is easier to
use than XP is (sans a couple of minor annoyances......)

JG


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Winston  
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 More options Nov 5, 4:15 pm
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From: w...@ubeblock.psr.com.invalid (Winston)
Date: 05 Nov 2009 03:15:27 -0500
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Subject: Re: Microsoft lays off 700 - Stock up
The news reports I've seen say 800, not 700.

DraggonFodder <commogu...@gmail.com> writes:
> why are they laying off so many workers.

I didn't see a reason stated, but revenues were down (14%?).

> It is so hard to upgrade from XP that most just won't do it.

In addition, the minimum DRAM and disk space requirements are much larger
than for XP, and more than what was typically included in low end computers
several years ago.  For a friend, I estimated the cost of upgrading to
Windows 7 to be about $200, plus whatever it costs to upgrade application
software from XP to Windows-7-compatible versions (such as anti-virus
software, where I wouldn't automatically trust an XP version to work well
under Windows 7), plus the value of his (or my) time spent doing it.

By contrast, for $15 or less, he could switch to a modern version of Linux
that should run fine on the old system without any hardware upgrades.

So, yes, older, inexpensive systems aren't likely to get upgraded to
Windows 7 since the cost of doing so is comparable to buying a new low-end
machine with stuff preinstalled.
 -WBE


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-=DirtBag©  
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 More options Nov 5, 11:27 pm
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From: -=DirtBag© <D...@ymail.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:27:48 -0800
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Subject: Re: Microsoft lays off 700 - Stock up

I have seen some freaky cheap netbooks..  I think is is cheaper to just
buy new in many cases.. Less headache less time consumed.  Apple just
works.  But a a premium cost.

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