I am lost in space with this company. I am in at $1.86 and it has become my albatross. Anyone else follow it? They have a new series of panels being shipped November ( this month) and they just were at a big show in LA but I don't know what the f to think right now..
Sell-Hold-Add I need to do something.. Suggestions?
-=DirtBagŠ <D...@ymail.net> wrote in news:4aef2cc2$0$1970 $742ec...@news.sonic.net:
> I am lost in space with this company. I am in at $1.86 and it has > become my albatross. Anyone else follow it? They have a new series of > panels being shipped November ( this month) and they just were at a big > show in LA but I don't know what the f to think right now..
> Sell-Hold-Add I need to do something.. Suggestions?
com...@webtv.net wrote: > how much are they losing per share ?
> JUST SAY NO TO "OBAMMUNISM "
I think all new construction should have solar part of the design. Make it mandatory and give tax incentives to sweeting the feeling of government fiddling.. but 'f' it. We need to get this party started. Solar panels used to look like shit.. Ugly like Mr. Comics 8th grade sweetheart. There are new designs that fit in great and costs are recouped in 4-years on new construction all financed into the home loan.
Sounds like a good plan to me.. Have them be American made too. (ESLR)
The way these work BTW is they ( solar panels) are connected to your meter and as your panels give energy to the grid your meter runs backwards..
No messing with it..
In the old days you had big batteries for storage and it was a bit of a hassle, but not this new system.. It just works for you.
You reduce your energy costs and with a large home that can me substantial over time. No fuss no thinking just great savings. If your not home and not using energy your solar panels are working and sending their energy into the grid and your meter is turning backwards when you come home and start using energy the meter runs slower..depending on your usage. Smart meters are now on a lot of homes. It is that simple.
On Nov 2, 2:02 pm, -=DirtBagŠ <D...@ymail.net> wrote:
> I am lost in space with this company. I am in at $1.86 and it has > become my albatross. Anyone else follow it? They have a new series of > panels being shipped November ( this month) and they just were at a big > show in LA but I don't know what the f to think right now..
> Sell-Hold-Add I need to do something.. Suggestions?
If I owned it I would sell and use the money to buy oil stocks.
shortT wrote: > On Nov 2, 2:02 pm, -=DirtBagŠ <D...@ymail.net> wrote: >> I am lost in space with this company. I am in at $1.86 and it has >> become my albatross. Anyone else follow it? They have a new series of >> panels being shipped November ( this month) and they just were at a big >> show in LA but I don't know what the f to think right now..
>> Sell-Hold-Add I need to do something.. Suggestions?
> If I owned it I would sell and use the money to buy oil stocks.
> shortT
I have COP, PBR, APC now. What oil stocks do you like? Thanks..
forget ESLR,buy monsanto..MON.. been watching them for a few years.. they shot up to about $140, then have slowly dropped to about $68...probably won't go much lower, but wil go much much higher in the next few years..they also pay a dividend.
> forget ESLR,buy monsanto..MON.. > been watching them for a few years.. > they shot up to about $140, then have slowly dropped to about > $68...probably won't go much lower, but wil go much much higher in the > next few years..they also pay a dividend.
> JUST SAY NO TO "OBAMMUNISM "
Monsanto use to grow silicon wafers back in the 70's. IBM use to buy tons of them to make IC's. We were happy as shit to get a yield of 2-3% out of them.
On Nov 2, 11:48 pm, -=DirtBagŠ <D...@ymail.net> wrote:
> shortT wrote: > > On Nov 2, 2:02 pm, -=DirtBagŠ <D...@ymail.net> wrote: > >> I am lost in space with this company. I am in at $1.86 and it has > >> become my albatross. Anyone else follow it? They have a new series of > >> panels being shipped November ( this month) and they just were at a big > >> show in LA but I don't know what the f to think right now..
> >> Sell-Hold-Add I need to do something.. Suggestions?
> > If I owned it I would sell and use the money to buy oil stocks.
> > shortT
> I have COP, PBR, APC now. What oil stocks do you like? > Thanks..
I have Gran Tierra Energy Inc. (Public, TSE:GTE) and Crew Energy Inc. (Public, TSE:CR). I have been looking at purchasing PBR. Looks like you did well today.
it's more of an escape opportunity fueled by some profit taking short sellers Short % of Float (as of 24-Feb-09)3: 13.50%
covering because they see their profit from that 52 week low 52wk Range: 1.00 - 12.64 being diminished by 80cents
in the last four quarters: their inventory has quadrupled their accounts payable has doubled and while their total revenue almost doubled in the last 4 Q's, their gross profit shrank from 33% to 4% the black hole of negative retained earnings has increased 62%
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here's what I wrote Nov 08
> I know I should be buying but I am scared.... Waaaaaaaaa!
no you shouldn't it's not profitable so there's no pe and the "other" ratio, price to sales sezs it's no bargain either
P/S (ttm): 5.33
debt is 4 times larger than revenue
Shares Short (prior month): 24.15M Shares Short (as of 28-Oct-08): 27.76M <--growing Short % of Float (as of 28-Oct-08): 17.10%
27 million short shares will buy to cover so if doesn't BK there will be a bounce play to milk for a day or two
revenue is on a decline for the past 3 quarters while cost of revenue and SGA spiked theis last quarter
and the NON reoccuring charges have been occuring with quarterly regularity and growing
and yeouch... they just borrowed a boatload of dough this last quarter....
do yourself a favor buy FSLR at $80 play that short covering bounce
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something else I wrote in Nov08
> ESLR is not a PENNY Stock and it currently trades at $4.42 and is > heading up.
heading up to it's $6.25 resistance powered by shorts buying to cover
Shares Short (prior month): 30.17M Shares Short (as of 10-Oct-08): 24.15M Short % of Float (as of 10-Oct-08): 14.90% <--
it's not profitable so it has no PE ratio that "other" ratio.. the price to sales ratio Price/Sales (ttm): 7.13 too high to be a bargin stock and it's not a momentum stock to warrent a ratio that high
it's debt is over 4 times it's revenue Total Debt (mrq): 373.75M
their non reoccuringexpenses seem to re-occur every quarter and they're growing sequentially
Non Recurring 11,281 5,281 1,046 358
The last 2 quarters they've deferred $20 million in liabilities under the carpet Deferred Long Term Liability Charges 10,317 10,195
and their capital expenditures keep growing sequentially Capital Expenditures (103,658) (61,994) (30,065) (7,584)
you may be able to work some profit out of nimble swing trades or technical rebounds but I'd say let this one go Jim it's a story stock got a great story it just sounds like the panacea for what ails us but the elephants aren't gonna buy big into this
lok at : PETS HMSY NEOG buy 'em on dip [well maybe pets is good to go right now..dunno]
insistant you want a beat to shit stock in the alt energy biz? buy GE 6.57 dividend it's pretty much at it's 30 year support line [does barclays REALLY have $10 trillion dollars worth of GE?]!!!!
last alt energy: CVA buy it below $15
DOW is a screaming buy 30 yr support has future nat gas supplies locked up no prob nearly 7% dividend
if northrup {NOC} tumbles to $34, that would be a good position
On Nov 2, 1:02 pm, -=DirtBagŠ <D...@ymail.net> wrote:
> I am lost in space with this company. I am in at $1.86 and it has > become my albatross. Anyone else follow it? They have a new series of > panels being shipped November ( this month) and they just were at a big > show in LA but I don't know what the f to think right now.. > Sell-Hold-Add I need to do something.. Suggestions?
It's difficult to pick a winner among the solar stocks. I am long ESLR, but am diversified with other solar stocks because I don't know which ones will be the big winners.
Ron Peterson wrote: > On Nov 2, 1:02 pm, -=DirtBagŠ <D...@ymail.net> wrote: >> I am lost in space with this company. I am in at $1.86 and it has >> become my albatross. Anyone else follow it? They have a new series of >> panels being shipped November ( this month) and they just were at a big >> show in LA but I don't know what the f to think right now..
>> Sell-Hold-Add I need to do something.. Suggestions?
> It's difficult to pick a winner among the solar stocks. I am long > ESLR, but am diversified with other solar stocks because I don't know > which ones will be the big winners.
> TAN is an ETF for solar stocks.
> -- > Ron
Thanks for your input Ron. I may set a limit buy and cost average 50% more shares.. down under 1.40 if I can snag some.. I have JASO too. What other solar players are at a serious buy point?
I never thought about and ETF.. I will look over TAN thanks..
On Nov 4, 8:07 am, -=DirtBagŠ <D...@ymail.net> wrote:
> Thanks for your input Ron. I may set a limit buy and cost average 50% > more shares.. down under 1.40 if I can snag some.. I have JASO too. > What other solar players are at a serious buy point? > I never thought about and ETF.. I will look over TAN thanks..
In the solar group, I am also long WFR, TSL, LDK, ENER, and CSIQ.
Wind power stocks are hard to find, but I am currently long ZOLT and have just had my HXL called away from me.
I am over invested in CREE, but they have a lot of room for growth in LED lighting.
> it's more of an escape opportunity > fueled by some profit taking short sellers > Short % of Float (as of 24-Feb-09)3: 13.50%
> covering because they see their profit from that 52 week low > 52wk Range: 1.00 - 12.64 > being diminished by 80cents
> in the last four quarters: > their inventory has quadrupled > their accounts payable has doubled > and while their total revenue almost doubled in the last 4 Q's, their > gross > profit shrank from 33% to 4% > the black hole of negative retained earnings has increased 62%
> ************************************
> here's what I wrote Nov 08
>> I know I should be buying but I am scared.... Waaaaaaaaa!
> no you shouldn't > it's not profitable so there's no pe > and the "other" ratio, price to sales sezs it's no bargain either
> P/S (ttm): 5.33
> debt is 4 times larger than revenue
> Shares Short (prior month): 24.15M > Shares Short (as of 28-Oct-08): 27.76M <--growing > Short % of Float (as of 28-Oct-08): 17.10%
> 27 million short shares > will buy to cover so if doesn't BK there will be a bounce play to milk > for > a day or two
> revenue is on a decline for the past 3 quarters > while cost of revenue and SGA spiked theis last quarter
> and the NON reoccuring charges have been occuring with quarterly > regularity > and growing
> and yeouch... they just borrowed a boatload of dough this last > quarter....
> do yourself a favor > buy FSLR at $80 > play that short covering bounce
> ***********************************
> something else I wrote in Nov08
>> ESLR is not a PENNY Stock and it currently trades at $4.42 and is >> heading up.
> heading up to it's $6.25 resistance > powered by shorts buying to cover
> Shares Short (prior month): 30.17M > Shares Short (as of 10-Oct-08): 24.15M > Short % of Float (as of 10-Oct-08): 14.90% <--
> it's not profitable so it has no PE ratio > that "other" ratio.. the price to sales ratio > Price/Sales (ttm): 7.13 > too high to be a bargin stock and it's not a momentum stock to warrent a > ratio that high
> it's debt is over 4 times it's revenue > Total Debt (mrq): 373.75M
> their non reoccuringexpenses seem to re-occur every quarter and they're > growing sequentially
> Non Recurring 11,281 5,281 1,046 358
> The last 2 quarters they've deferred $20 million in liabilities under the > carpet > Deferred Long Term Liability Charges 10,317 10,195
> and their capital expenditures keep growing sequentially > Capital Expenditures (103,658) (61,994) (30,065) (7,584)
> you may be able to work some profit out of nimble swing trades or > technical > rebounds > but I'd say let this one go Jim > it's a story stock > got a great story > it just sounds like the panacea for what ails us > but the elephants aren't gonna buy big into this
> lok at : PETS HMSY NEOG buy 'em on dip [well maybe pets is good to go > right > now..dunno]
> insistant you want a beat to shit stock in the alt energy biz? > buy GE > 6.57 dividend > it's pretty much at it's 30 year support line > [does barclays REALLY have $10 trillion dollars worth of GE?]!!!!
> last alt energy: CVA buy it below $15
> DOW is a screaming buy > 30 yr support > has future nat gas supplies locked up no prob > nearly 7% dividend
> if northrup {NOC} > tumbles to $34, that would be a good position
Humm You make some good points.. DOW and GE may better fit my needs with the dividends.. and 30 year support. I hold GE now. Thanks for your input and suggestions.
> it's more of an escape opportunity > fueled by some profit taking short sellers > Short % of Float (as of 24-Feb-09)3: 13.50%
> covering because they see their profit from that 52 week low > 52wk Range: 1.00 - 12.64 > being diminished by 80cents
> in the last four quarters: > their inventory has quadrupled > their accounts payable has doubled > and while their total revenue almost doubled in the last 4 Q's, their > gross > profit shrank from 33% to 4% > the black hole of negative retained earnings has increased 62%
> ************************************
> here's what I wrote Nov 08
>> I know I should be buying but I am scared.... Waaaaaaaaa!
> no you shouldn't > it's not profitable so there's no pe > and the "other" ratio, price to sales sezs it's no bargain either
> P/S (ttm): 5.33
> debt is 4 times larger than revenue
> Shares Short (prior month): 24.15M > Shares Short (as of 28-Oct-08): 27.76M <--growing > Short % of Float (as of 28-Oct-08): 17.10%
> 27 million short shares > will buy to cover so if doesn't BK there will be a bounce play to milk > for > a day or two
> revenue is on a decline for the past 3 quarters > while cost of revenue and SGA spiked theis last quarter
> and the NON reoccuring charges have been occuring with quarterly > regularity > and growing
> and yeouch... they just borrowed a boatload of dough this last > quarter....
> do yourself a favor > buy FSLR at $80 > play that short covering bounce
> ***********************************
> something else I wrote in Nov08
>> ESLR is not a PENNY Stock and it currently trades at $4.42 and is >> heading up.
> heading up to it's $6.25 resistance > powered by shorts buying to cover
> Shares Short (prior month): 30.17M > Shares Short (as of 10-Oct-08): 24.15M > Short % of Float (as of 10-Oct-08): 14.90% <--
> it's not profitable so it has no PE ratio > that "other" ratio.. the price to sales ratio > Price/Sales (ttm): 7.13 > too high to be a bargin stock and it's not a momentum stock to warrent a > ratio that high
> it's debt is over 4 times it's revenue > Total Debt (mrq): 373.75M
> their non reoccuringexpenses seem to re-occur every quarter and they're > growing sequentially
> Non Recurring 11,281 5,281 1,046 358
> The last 2 quarters they've deferred $20 million in liabilities under the > carpet > Deferred Long Term Liability Charges 10,317 10,195
> and their capital expenditures keep growing sequentially > Capital Expenditures (103,658) (61,994) (30,065) (7,584)
> you may be able to work some profit out of nimble swing trades or > technical > rebounds > but I'd say let this one go Jim > it's a story stock > got a great story > it just sounds like the panacea for what ails us > but the elephants aren't gonna buy big into this
> lok at : PETS HMSY NEOG buy 'em on dip [well maybe pets is good to go > right > now..dunno]
> insistant you want a beat to shit stock in the alt energy biz? > buy GE > 6.57 dividend > it's pretty much at it's 30 year support line > [does barclays REALLY have $10 trillion dollars worth of GE?]!!!!
> last alt energy: CVA buy it below $15
> DOW is a screaming buy > 30 yr support > has future nat gas supplies locked up no prob > nearly 7% dividend
> if northrup {NOC} > tumbles to $34, that would be a good position
DOW has a 7% divd? That would be nice but my info shows only 2.45% DIVD. Am i missing something..?
>> it's more of an escape opportunity >> fueled by some profit taking short sellers >> Short % of Float (as of 24-Feb-09)3: 13.50%
>> covering because they see their profit from that 52 week low >> 52wk Range: 1.00 - 12.64 >> being diminished by 80cents
>> in the last four quarters: >> their inventory has quadrupled >> their accounts payable has doubled >> and while their total revenue almost doubled in the last 4 Q's, their >> gross >> profit shrank from 33% to 4% >> the black hole of negative retained earnings has increased 62%
>> ************************************
>> here's what I wrote Nov 08
>>> I know I should be buying but I am scared.... Waaaaaaaaa!
>> no you shouldn't >> it's not profitable so there's no pe >> and the "other" ratio, price to sales sezs it's no bargain either
>> P/S (ttm): 5.33
>> debt is 4 times larger than revenue
>> Shares Short (prior month): 24.15M >> Shares Short (as of 28-Oct-08): 27.76M <--growing >> Short % of Float (as of 28-Oct-08): 17.10%
>> 27 million short shares >> will buy to cover so if doesn't BK there will be a bounce play to >> milk for >> a day or two
>> revenue is on a decline for the past 3 quarters >> while cost of revenue and SGA spiked theis last quarter
>> and the NON reoccuring charges have been occuring with quarterly >> regularity >> and growing
>> and yeouch... they just borrowed a boatload of dough this last >> quarter....
>> do yourself a favor >> buy FSLR at $80 >> play that short covering bounce
>> ***********************************
>> something else I wrote in Nov08
>>> ESLR is not a PENNY Stock and it currently trades at $4.42 and is >>> heading up.
>> heading up to it's $6.25 resistance >> powered by shorts buying to cover
>> Shares Short (prior month): 30.17M >> Shares Short (as of 10-Oct-08): 24.15M >> Short % of Float (as of 10-Oct-08): 14.90% <--
>> it's not profitable so it has no PE ratio >> that "other" ratio.. the price to sales ratio >> Price/Sales (ttm): 7.13 >> too high to be a bargin stock and it's not a momentum stock to >> warrent a ratio that high
>> it's debt is over 4 times it's revenue >> Total Debt (mrq): 373.75M
>> their non reoccuringexpenses seem to re-occur every quarter and >> they're growing sequentially
>> Non Recurring 11,281 5,281 1,046 358
>> The last 2 quarters they've deferred $20 million in liabilities under >> the carpet >> Deferred Long Term Liability Charges 10,317 10,195
>> and their capital expenditures keep growing sequentially >> Capital Expenditures (103,658) (61,994) (30,065) (7,584)
>> you may be able to work some profit out of nimble swing trades or >> technical >> rebounds >> but I'd say let this one go Jim >> it's a story stock >> got a great story >> it just sounds like the panacea for what ails us >> but the elephants aren't gonna buy big into this
>> lok at : PETS HMSY NEOG buy 'em on dip [well maybe pets is good to go >> right >> now..dunno]
>> insistant you want a beat to shit stock in the alt energy biz? >> buy GE >> 6.57 dividend >> it's pretty much at it's 30 year support line >> [does barclays REALLY have $10 trillion dollars worth of GE?]!!!!
>> last alt energy: CVA buy it below $15
>> DOW is a screaming buy >> 30 yr support >> has future nat gas supplies locked up no prob >> nearly 7% dividend
>> if northrup {NOC} >> tumbles to $34, that would be a good position
> DOW has a 7% divd? That would be nice but my info shows only 2.45% > DIVD. Am i missing something..?
yes, what you're missing is #1: at the top of the post I said here's what I wrote in March (it's a re-post) #2: in March, they cut their dividend from $2c to 15c 28-Sep-09 $ 0.15 Dividend 26-Jun-09 $ 0.15 Dividend 27-Mar-09 $ 0.15 Dividend 29-Dec-08 $ 0.42 Dividend 26-Sep-08 $ 0.42 Dividend 26-Jun-08 $ 0.42 Dividend 27-Mar-08 $ 0.42 Dividend
sow the dividend yield AT THAT TIME appeared greater than6%
and on second look, there is no "numbers in thousands" notation on the major holders page, so Barclays does NOT have a trillion dollars worth of DOW...just nearly a Billion dollars worth
Barclays Global Investors UK Holdings Ltd shares:56,047,135 value: $904,600,758
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